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Title: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: J_Speegle on February 06, 2011, 03:20:55 AM
Ford is selling them as "art prints"

Thought most would find something of interest  (no we're not getting a kick back :0 

Enjoy

http://ford.artehouse.com/perl/collection.pl?seeAllImages=1&productTypeID=57&collectionID=1520

If you use the filter - there are a fair number of Mustang styling shots also
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: CharlesTurner on February 06, 2011, 01:17:47 PM
Cool, thanks for the link.  A few interesting pics.  Wonder if Mark H. has seen this one:

http://ford.artehouse.com/perl/options.pl?imageID=10951&productTypeID=57&ckon=imageThumb
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: JKWilson on February 06, 2011, 02:09:15 PM
Great link Jeff!
 Charles, I found another pic which looks like it was from the same series. Don't know if you came across this one:

http://ford.artehouse.com/perl/options.pl?imageID=11775&ckon=name
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: J_Speegle on February 06, 2011, 08:01:22 PM
Both of those pictures have been out there for many years - but if they are taking the new prints from the original negatives we might be able to pick up a couple of fine details missed in the earlier prints

Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Skyway65 on February 08, 2011, 06:21:16 PM
How about this Dearborn shot...  What's in the trunk of the black one??
(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab270/bertram65/DearbornAssemblyLine-19645.jpg)
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: J_Speegle on February 08, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
How about this Deaborn shot...  What's in the trunk of the black one??

Interesting shot - cars sideways on their skids/dollys, interior in the car, no front end sheet metal, rear end  (though the rear shocks are in place.  First shot I've seen with the cars side ways on their skids at Dearborn - thanks

Don't have any idea of what is in the box - don't see another in sight. They look a different size when compared IMHO to the ones behind the car two cars to the rear but printing is similar. The box in the trunk would be about the right size for a hubcap box but believe the printing on the box is larger than I would remember/expect and I would think that it might be a little early in the build process to throw those in.

Good picture to print out and show (ask about) some of the Dearborn workers
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: CharlesTurner on February 08, 2011, 10:15:18 PM
Cool pic.  My guess would be a wheel cover box.
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Sunlitgold68 on February 08, 2011, 11:42:18 PM
Anybody have Metuchen assembly plant photos? I would really like to see some if they are out there.
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: ChrisV289 on February 09, 2011, 09:38:28 AM
Interesting that the only colors are red, white, blue and black...thought there would be more of a variety...
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Pete Bush on February 09, 2011, 11:41:09 AM
Kinda makes sense from an efficiency standpoint. Batching of the cars for paint colors likely meant less paint changeovers and the associated prep and clean-up.
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Skyway65 on February 09, 2011, 12:55:35 PM
Interesting too the convertible and the vinyl top car in the foreground are spaced out to allow the workers more time to work on those cars.  Anyone have an idea what the blue dot on the window of the black car is?  Something behind the car?

The place looks pretty messy too, kinda like my garage!
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: CharlesTurner on February 09, 2011, 02:36:53 PM
Where did you find the pic above?  I've been all through the Ford Images site and couldn't find it.
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: gtamustang on February 09, 2011, 04:01:38 PM
Kinda makes sense from an efficiency standpoint. Batching of the cars for paint colors likely meant less paint changeovers and the associated prep and clean-up.

Actually, there really wasn't any paint changeover or prep between cars.  Each color had it's own 55 gal drum and associated paint sprayers. If you notice in any of the Ford painting pictures that are available, the guns do not have any cups; just two hoses (1 for air and 1 for paint). All paint was pre-mixed in the 55 gal drums that were then used as pressure pots. So, based on the required color, the painters would pick up the corresponding paint guns that were hanging on the walls of the paint tunnel (not really a booth) and start spraying. There was usually 4 painters per car. Same concept went on where the hoods, fenders, and other miscellaneous parts where painted the exterior color.

Regards,
Pete Morgan
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Skyway65 on February 09, 2011, 08:24:44 PM
Charles, I've had that for a while.  I actually can't recall where it came from. I have a friend in Oregon who has some other assembly line photos, I think he may have dug it up somewhere.  Also, when I visited Ford World Headquarters last summer I found a file that had another 10-15 color shots from Aug of '64 in Dearborn.  Ford wanted something like $50 per photo to buy copies so I passed.  Those photos are really good too.

Here's another good one-(note the asbestos flaking off onto the guy's head!)

(http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab270/bertram65/02b-MustangProduction.jpg)
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Pete Bush on February 10, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
Actually, there really wasn't any paint changeover or prep between cars.  Each color had it's own 55 gal drum and associated paint sprayers. If you notice in any of the Ford painting pictures that are available, the guns do not have any cups; just two hoses (1 for air and 1 for paint). All paint was pre-mixed in the 55 gal drums that were then used as pressure pots. So, based on the required color, the painters would pick up the corresponding paint guns that were hanging on the walls of the paint tunnel (not really a booth) and start spraying. There was usually 4 painters per car. Same concept went on where the hoods, fenders, and other miscellaneous parts where painted the exterior color.

Regards,
Pete Morgan

Pete,
When a 55 gallon drum was emptied what was the process for its replacement? Would there still have been some down time for a particular color whose 55 gallon drum was depleted?
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: gtamustang on February 10, 2011, 05:13:18 PM
Pete,
When a 55 gallon drum was emptied what was the process for its replacement? Would there still have been some down time for a particular color whose 55 gallon drum was depleted?

The motto is keep the assembly line moving. PERIOD. I am sure there were other hourly workers whose responsbility was to monitor and change out the nearly empty paint drums. There was always residual paint left in the drums, that is how Dearborn was able to recycle the leftover paint and use it as a primer/sealer.

Regards,
Pete Morgan
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Randyfastback65 on February 11, 2011, 06:18:45 PM

The following photo has been posted over on VMF, I asked about the blue alternator fan and pulley and got no response. So Ill ask here.  I cant say Ive ever seen this before, or at least never noticed it before on any concours cars.... Jeff , Charles , Whats your take?
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a339/randyguam/Car%20shows/Mustangline1965.jpg)
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 11, 2011, 08:01:55 PM
Interesting shot - cars sideways on their skids/dollys, interior in the car, no front end sheet metal, rear end  (though the rear shocks are in place.  First shot I've seen with the cars side ways on their skids at Dearborn - thanks

Don't have any idea of what is in the box - don't see another in sight. They look a different size when compared IMHO to the ones behind the car two cars to the rear but printing is similar. The box in the trunk would be about the right size for a hubcap box but believe the printing on the box is larger than I would remember/expect and I would think that it might be a little early in the build process to throw those in.

Good picture to print out and show (ask about) some of the Dearborn workers
Does anyone else think it could be a gas tank in the box sticking out of the trunk? We are not seeing all of the corners to distinguish it's true size and some of the boxes in the background appear to be gas tank size and similar looking to what might be sticking out of the trunk. It might be easier to handle a gas tank sliding it out of the cardboard "side" into position. A box would seem to eliminate damage to the tank and sharp edges from damaging people also it would keep debris from getting into the tank. It would follow as a logical possibility at this stage of the assembly. Only some arm chair speculation  :D .Bob
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: NEFaurora on February 11, 2011, 09:22:20 PM

Hey, These are some of the best pics that I've seen in years..and in color too!

All I can say is... Keep 'em coming!

Tony K.
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: J_Speegle on February 11, 2011, 09:37:30 PM
The following photo has been posted over on VMF, I asked about the blue alternator fan and pulley and got no response. So Ill ask here.  I cant say Ive ever seen this before, or at least never noticed it before on any concours cars.... Jeff , Charles , Whats your take?

Discussed a number of times - check the 65-66 section of this site for at least one discussion here.

Basically an oddity that popped up here and there (no really hard pattern identified yet that I'm aware of) in San Jose and Dearborn production. Don't think you'll find many concours cars with them since the percentage that got them, again was very very small - and no one want to be the guy with the blue alternator fan ;)
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: sparky65 on February 11, 2011, 11:58:42 PM
Does anyone else think it could be a gas tank in the box sticking out of the trunk? We are not seeing all of the corners to distinguish it's true size and some of the boxes in the background appear to be gas tank size and similar looking to what might be sticking out of the trunk. It might be easier to handle a gas tank sliding it out of the cardboard "side" into position. A box would seem to eliminate damage to the tank and sharp edges from damaging people also it would keep debris from getting into the tank. It would follow as a logical possibility at this stage of the assembly. Only some arm chair speculation  :D .Bob

Kind off doubt it although its an interesting thought.  First it seems like if you look under at the wheel well you can see a gas tank in place.  Second I don't see why they would want to drop boxes of stuff into the car to have them installed down the line.  I think they would install the tank instead of just dropping in the box.
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 12, 2011, 12:25:28 PM
Kind off doubt it although its an interesting thought.  First it seems like if you look under at the wheel well you can see a gas tank in place.  Second I don't see why they would want to drop boxes of stuff into the car to have them installed down the line.  I think they would install the tank instead of just dropping in the box.
Just to restate from my previous post since you missed my "possible  " reasoning for the box "  It might be easier to handle a gas tank sliding it out of the cardboard "side" into position. A box would seem to eliminate damage to the tank and sharp edges from damaging people also it would keep debris from getting into the tank." Sliding the tank into position from the box (opening up a cardboard side)would also eliminate possible damage to painted surfaces around the trunk opening area during installation. The box left sticking out maybe the position it was left in during a lunch break,bathroom break etc.  This may or may not be the answer to the box question but was just addressing the post that you made that didn't understand the reasoning for box usage.  Bob
Title: Re: More Assemblyline pictures released
Post by: sparky65 on February 14, 2011, 09:05:22 PM
Just to restate from my previous post since you missed my "possible  " reasoning for the box "  It might be easier to handle a gas tank sliding it out of the cardboard "side" into position. A box would seem to eliminate damage to the tank and sharp edges from damaging people also it would keep debris from getting into the tank." Sliding the tank into position from the box (opening up a cardboard side)would also eliminate possible damage to painted surfaces around the trunk opening area during installation. The box left sticking out maybe the position it was left in during a lunch break,bathroom break etc.  This may or may not be the answer to the box question but was just addressing the post that you made that didn't understand the reasoning for box usage.  Bob

Yea I miss understood that the first time.