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Title: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 16, 2021, 04:07:57 PM
Hi,

Does anyone have a spare radio OEM Ford radio speaker for a 1966 Mustang??? NOS would be better but since I have a project going on under the dash [changing out heater core...ugh], I thought it would be nice to tackle this task. The radio is original but the speaker is a repop. Does not have to be perfect but must work! Preferably with a C4 to C6 code.

Thanks again,

Steve
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: jwc66k on March 16, 2021, 08:23:42 PM
The speaker you want has a 64 part number, C4ZA-18808-A, no 65 or 66 number. There is no direct service replacement, but there is a "generic" Ford service stock number, C4AZ-18808-E, 4 X 10 inch.
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 16, 2021, 08:48:35 PM
Excellent and thanks Jim. Really glad to know that.

All the best,

Steve
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 16, 2021, 08:52:36 PM
Also was just looking at how to remove and install [in the event I ever find one] but do you remove the grill on the dash or pull the radio and go that route. The one currently installed appears to have been mounted from the top by I believe removing the grill on the dash.

Thanks for any guidance.

Steve
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Bossbill on March 16, 2021, 10:17:16 PM
If you find an original but the cone is broken you can send it in and have it re-coned.
I finally had to do this in order to have an "original Ford."
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: jwc66k on March 16, 2021, 11:32:28 PM
If you find an original but the cone is broken you can send it in and have it re-coned.
I finally had to do this in order to have an "original Ford."
Back in my youth (and many days with little cash), we would repair speaker cones with glue and toilet paper.
- but there is a "generic" Ford service stock number, C4AZ-18808-E, 4 X 10 inch.
Which in turn has been replaced by C9AZ-18808-D,
Also was just looking at how to remove and install [in the event I ever find one] but do you remove the grill on the dash or pull the radio and go that route. The one currently installed appears to have been mounted from the top by I believe removing the grill on the dash.
That's the standard way.
I would recommend you get a set of 66 Mustang Assembly Manuals, and the 64-65 Mustang Chassis Manual, as 90-95 percent of the contents would also apply to Shelbys. There is a booklet "1966 Shelby, Unique Parts Manual" that is also beneficial.
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: outlawincorporated on March 17, 2021, 03:16:23 AM
As per your post on another forum as well.  i have a NOS example available if your interested.  it is a fomoco boxed and part number is C5ZZ-18808-A

drop me a PM if interested.

regards

PHILL BERESFORD
MELBOURNE.
AUSTRALIA.
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 17, 2021, 10:35:03 AM
Thanks all. I shall continue my quest! I do have the Shop Manual but not the assembly manuals...great idea. I live 10 minutes from NPD and they are open every day so I shall head down there today for that. By the way, where can you have a speaker re-coned???

All the best and stay safe!

Steve
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: carlite65 on March 17, 2021, 10:37:51 AM
i believe a search here will reveal a source for that type of work.
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: jwc66k on March 17, 2021, 12:39:16 PM
As per your post on another forum as well.  i have a NOS example available if your interested.  it is a fomoco boxed and part number is C5ZZ-18808-A
Phill,
For the record, what is the actual part number on the speaker in the box, and any date codes?
(You can justify opening the box to inspect for "speaker rot", "frame corrosion" and "worms".)
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Bossbill on March 17, 2021, 01:57:41 PM
Thanks all. I shall continue my quest! I do have the Shop Manual but not the assembly manuals...great idea. I live 10 minutes from NPD and they are open every day so I shall head down there today for that. By the way, where can you have a speaker re-coned???

All the best and stay safe!

Steve

Search for "speaker restoration."
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=24323.msg151637#msg151637
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 17, 2021, 02:33:48 PM
Very cool all and thank you. GREAT assistance.

Cheers,

Steve
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 17, 2021, 03:13:28 PM
Anyone ever heard of a speaker with a code C4ZA-18971-A. Would this application work???

Cheers,

Steve
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: jwc66k on March 17, 2021, 03:36:52 PM
Anyone ever heard of a speaker with a code C4ZA-18971-A.
I find no reference to base number "18971". Where did this number appear?
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Bossbill on March 17, 2021, 03:43:06 PM
There's  a 67 rear seat speaker that has the number 18971. See pic from MPC.
It appears speakers can have different numbers than the 18808 listing.
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: jwc66k on March 17, 2021, 04:44:32 PM
There's  a 67 rear seat speaker that has the number 18971. See pic from MPC.
It appears speakers can have different numbers than the 18808 listing.
I found what you referenced. I think this is a prime example of what is commonly referred to as "creative part number engineering", as applied to and by Ford. Ford engineering groups would come up with a "new" part, so they gave it a "new", and in many cases, part number, complete with a different base number. It worked. They got it made, installed and the car sold, and left it up to the service department to "correct" the different numbers.
The topic title indicated a 1966 application, so 67 would not work. However, with my Dewalt Sawzall, I could get it to fit, but not for a 66, and not for a Shelby.
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 17, 2021, 04:50:13 PM
Number appeared on magnet. Is being offered for sale but reading this I am going to pass thanks to you guys input...Thanks.

Will continue my quest!

Steve
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Bossbill on March 17, 2021, 08:16:08 PM
This notation was for a rear speaker. We were talking about the (numeric) base part of the part number and I was only showing that the number existed on speakers regardless of what the MPC says.

If it's the right size for a 65/66 and it has all the other Ford markings (and a C4 at that) it may well be ok.

Please note we tend to geek out about inconsistencies in Ford part numbering (and lots of other things)!
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: jwc66k on March 18, 2021, 12:22:25 AM
Please note we tend to geek out about inconsistencies in Ford part numbering (and lots of other things)!
Ever hear of the "Thoroughbred" class?
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: 67gtasanjose on March 18, 2021, 06:20:07 AM
This notation was for a rear speaker. We were talking about...

Yes, notice for Mustang ("F"- body code), it states 65 body type...so Mustang Coupe. This is an "Accessory Part", thus a different number. Yes, it would "fit in the center hole" of a 64 through 67 Mustang coupe rear deck but in ANY Thoroughbred class, it wouldn't at all be correct.
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: outlawincorporated on March 18, 2021, 08:37:51 AM
Phill,
For the record, what is the actual part number on the speaker in the box, and any date codes?
(You can justify opening the box to inspect for "speaker rot", "frame corrosion" and "worms".)
Jim

JIM

here is what i can advise; 
Carton is a FOMOCO example
Part number on box is; C5ZZ-18808-A
Ink stamp on box is; 01/12/1967
Ink stamp on speaker is;  C4ZA-18808-A.  FOMOCO. MADE IN USA. 21101. 285537

In perfect condition after all these years. a true survivor part.

Regards

PHILL BERESFORD
MELBOURNE.
AUSTRALIA.
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 18, 2021, 08:44:48 AM
WOW!!! :-[

Steve
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: jwc66k on March 18, 2021, 12:49:43 PM
In perfect condition after all these years. a true survivor part.
Yes.
Thanks Phill.
Jim
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 21, 2021, 01:44:23 PM
Question. OK, found a restorable OEM frame with the correct serial #'s on the magnet. My question is does this speaker, C5ZZ-18808-A, have a fabric cover over the cone???

Thanks again,

Steve

P.S.: GREAT site and thanks to all!
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: outlawincorporated on March 22, 2021, 12:05:52 AM
Question. OK, found a restorable OEM frame with the correct serial #'s on the magnet. My question is does this speaker, C5ZZ-18808-A, have a fabric cover over the cone???

Thanks again,

Steve

P.S.: GREAT site and thanks to all!

YES it does have a black fabric cover.

regards

PHILL BEERSFORD
MELBOURNE.
AUSTRALIA.
Title: Re: 1966 NOS or original OEM Mustang radio speaker
Post by: Kingchief on March 22, 2021, 10:26:01 AM
Thank you Phill.

All the best,

Steve