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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 Mustang => Topic started by: G Wood on February 09, 2011, 03:37:16 PM
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The steering box on my 69 has body colored paint on the outward facing surface of the box (surface facing into engine compartment). I am not sure when these were installed in the car, but why would it have body color paint on it (in addition to the white and yellow daubs that are still there)?
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Guess the first question would be what color was your car painted? It might just match a paint mark that was applied, originally to the box - just a thought and a place to start the discussion.
If not I don't know how it happened (if it did ) at the plant since the box would have been installed after the painting.
Other possibilities would be a happy painter (car being touched up at the dealer or by PO?
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Jeff:
My car is winter blue. I have cleaned the box and have been able to uncover the original daubs plus the body color paint.
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Do have a picture of another 69 Mustang (late Dearborn) with a mark on the other side of the main body with a similar (could just be the angle or camera settings) color. That picture looks like other 67-8 ones with a more Ford engine blue. Maybe someone didn't stir the can as much that day ;)
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Thanks Jeff, your thoughts on why this was applied. Was the box on the car etc? Also does the top of the box get blacked out as these does not appear to be much paint there if it did.
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Thanks Jeff, your thoughts on why this was applied. Was the box on the car etc? Also does the top of the box get blacked out as these does not appear to be much paint there if it did.
Believe, like many marks, it was to help workers quickly identify this steering box from another (PS verses non PS for example)
This could have been for the guys building/assembling the boxes (subassembles), the guy who placed them in specific bins for the line workers or for the line worker - possibly all three
Have not seen evidence that the 69 boxes were blacked out like some of the early boxes
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Believe, like many marks, it was to help workers quickly identify this steering box from another (PS verses non PS for example)
This could have been for the guys building/assembling the boxes (subassembles), the guy who placed them in specific bins for the line workers or for the line worker - possibly all three
Have not seen evidence that the 69 boxes were blacked out like some of the early boxes
As Jeff indicates the paint marks helped identify the boxes .I know I have seen many PS boxes that had similar marks to each other as well as some with little to hardly any marks. I doesn't seem very uniform IMHO. I have recently seen compelling evidence that some (not all or even close to) had the "top " of the box blacked out on some 69 P/S cars. Bob
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...........I have recently seen compelling evidence that some (not all or even close to) had the "top " of the box blacked out on some 69 P/S cars. Bob
You know I'm not going to let it pass without asking "what plant"? ;) - Guessing Deaerborn
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You know I'm not going to let it pass without asking "what plant"? ;) - Guessing Deaerborn
you are such a mind readerereerer ;D
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Jeff,don't mistake my reply as to imply that I think it was very common though. I think just the opposite until I see further proof. ;) Bob
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Jeff,don't mistake my reply as to imply that I think it was very common though. I think just the opposite until I see further proof. ;) Bob
So others reading the post - DON"T run out to black out the steering box - yet LOL
Will have to dig out the box from my Boss 302 now to look for black
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So others reading the post - DON"T run out to black out the steering box - yet LOL
Will have to dig out the box from my Boss 302 now to look for black
+1
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I have about 15 or so steering boxes I have pulled from original cars...plus the extra cars I have at my shop and none of them have any signs of blackout treatment on them. This would be for 68/69/70 dated steering boxes.
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I did some more cleaning on my box last night and it does appear that there was black paint applied. There is a difference when you remove the tag. After it sat in Evapo-rust the black became more evident.
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I think we're looking for black applied (just a mention) with a brush rather than sprayed on. Sprayed on IMHO is more likely a PO or used car lot "freshening things up" a bit
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I guess I can't clarify. It does have black and could be from a freshening. As the rest of the box was really dirty and covered in grime, I would think if the black was from freshening that it would easily wipe off as the paint would not have adhered well. The blue and yellow are definitely factory, the black I can't confirm.
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this is the original steering box on my 3/31/69 candyapple dearborn car.
it's a manual 19:1 box.
a previous owner put a coat of black on about everything in the engine bay (suspension/steering parts also). the black that's on there is attached pretty well. maybe the previous owner power washed everything when the motor was out.
there is a blue on the engine side, what looks to be a light green on the top and yellow on the steel cap. i didn't find any colors on the back side (frame rail).
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/buckeyedemon/69%20Mustang%20Mach%201/components/IMG_0741.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/buckeyedemon/69%20Mustang%20Mach%201/components/IMG_0740.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/buckeyedemon/69%20Mustang%20Mach%201/components/IMG_0738.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/buckeyedemon/69%20Mustang%20Mach%201/components/IMG_0736.jpg)
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Check out the bottom left corner of page 71 ,72,73 in the 1969 assemblyline manual .To paraphrase it says to paint on the box black what you can see from above with hood open . Obviously a skipped step on a lot of cars regardless of plant. In my opinion it would be just the top that you could reach with a brush and not the sides.Bob
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Thanks for all the feedback. The blue on the previous response looks very similar to mine.
Garth
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Interestingly although I have seen a couple of 68 examples recently that had the top of the box black out ,there is no mention of it in ether the 67 or 68 manual. The black out for the top of the box is mentioned in the 69 and the 70 manual. I don't believe it was as widely done as the assembly manual might imply. Bob
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Been seeing the blackout treatment on some 65-66 cars also... Might be a common practice by FMC.