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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1968 Mustang => Topic started by: bullitt68 on October 12, 2021, 05:33:43 AM
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NOTE: The following posts were separated from a Members build thread as the subject sort of took off and appeared to be a good stand alone topic. So by placing it in the section it will be easier to find and viewable by members and non-members alike. Enjoy
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I was originally going to leave my wiper motor unpainted as that is how I found it on my car, but have decided to paint it instead. I think that the stamp will show up much better that way and I have not seen any other photos of a wiper motor unpainted. Not sure if the paint just disappeared over time or if it just got very little paint applied when painted.
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I was originally going to leave my wiper motor unpainted as that is how I found it on my car, but have decided to paint it instead. I think that the stamp will show up much better that way and I have not seen any other photos of a wiper motor unpainted. Not sure if the paint just disappeared over time or if it just got very little paint applied when painted.
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/16/4775-121021042948-161561243.jpeg)
I don't think the paint evaporated over time . The paint could be super thin but still would show some indication of having been there. I have seen items that had surface rust over the entire surface which made them appear like they had not had any paint on them but in reality the rust underneath cause the paint to flack off. That would not be the case on a partially surface rust covered item .You were not specific on the condition of the surface prior . It would not be typical for the motor housing not to be painted . With that said that just means the ones that were not painted are few and far between. Certainly a non painted one is not in the never ever realm. I think painting it is the prudent decision.
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I was originally going to leave my wiper motor unpainted as that is how I found it on my car, but have decided to paint it instead. I think that the stamp will show up much better that way and I have not seen any other photos of a wiper motor unpainted. Not sure if the paint just disappeared over time or if it just got very little paint applied when painted.
The tell tell sign that would document if there were any bare steel ones would be the visible presence of the ink stamping on the bare metal surface.
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Never seen one unpainted but I don't claim to have seen all of them either. Here's one I restored (this is the before picture) and installed recently. Actual build date of the car was June 15, 1968. It looked really nice until I plastered the firewall and the heater motor with sound deadener LOL!.
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I don't think the paint evaporated over time . The paint could be super thin but still would show some indication of having been there. I have seen items that had surface rust over the entire surface which made them appear like they had not had any paint on them but in reality the rust underneath cause the paint to flack off. That would not be the case on a partially surface rust covered item .You were not specific on the condition of the surface prior . It would not be typical for the motor housing not to be painted . With that said that just means the ones that were not painted are few and far between. Certainly a non painted one is not in the never ever realm. I think painting it is the prudent decision.
Thanks Bob. I should have posted a photo of how I found the motor. Here is a photo of when I removed it from the car.
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The tell tell sings that would document if there were any bare steel ones would be the visible presence of the ink stamping on the surface.
Here you go Jeff. This is what remained after Evaporusting it
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Never seen one unpainted but I don't claim to have seen all of them either. Here's one I restored (this is the before picture) and installed recently. Actual build date of the car was June 15, 1968. It looked really nice until I plastered the firewall and the heater motor with sound deadener LOL!.
Mine is May 20 1968
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OK sorry I posted a picture of a heater blower motor - the one you have pictured is a W/W motor. Sorry! No pictures of that.
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OK sorry I posted a picture of a heater blower motor - the one you have pictured is a W/W motor. Sorry! No pictures of that.
What is interesting is that there seems to be no remnants of black paint and the stamp is clearly visible
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Ford tended to leave parts unpainted under the dash. I've never seen one like yours but it sure looks like it was unpainted originally.
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Ford tended to leave parts unpainted under the dash. I've never seen one like yours but it sure looks like it was unpainted originally.
Thanks Royce. I am trying to determine if I should paint it or not. It looked unpainted to me, but it did have a bit of surface rust on it. Perhaps Bob is right about how the paint disappeared. I was planning on leaving it bare metal, but now considering painting it. I always defer to the experts when in doubt
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Thanks Royce. I am trying to determine if I should paint it or not. It looked unpainted to me, but it did have a bit of surface rust on it. Perhaps Bob is right about how the paint disappeared. I was planning on leaving it bare metal, but now considering painting it. I always defer to the experts when in doubt
I thought I had seen unpainted ones, when I checked my parts I found three unpainted ones. Two were very rusty but the one was very nice with the C7 number stamp clearly visible. I have no doubt that some were never painted.
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For 65-66, the 1sp wiper motors were unpainted like the one in the pics. 2sp were black bottom. Interestingly, the brackets the motors attach to are even different for 1sp/2sp for those years also.
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Original, unpainted wiper motor on my April 1968 Dearborn built car.
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I have seen some 68 NJ ones unpainted as well.
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Original, unpainted wiper motor on my April 1968 Dearborn built car.
Yes yours looks just like mine. Originally I was not going to paint it. Then I decided to paint, which I haven't yet, and now I am considering not painting it again. Just curious what you did with yours.
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I have seen some 68 NJ ones unpainted as well.
So perhaps they are not as rare as originally thought. I wonder how many are left unpainted during restoration
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For 65-66, the 1sp wiper motors were unpainted like the one in the pics. 2sp were black bottom. Interestingly, the brackets the motors attach to are even different for 1sp/2sp for those years also.
What does SP mean?
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I thought I had seen unpainted ones, when I checked my parts I found three unpainted ones. Two were very rusty but the one was very nice with the C7 number stamp clearly visible. I have no doubt that some were never painted.
Very interesting. Well that confirms that mine most likely was one that did not get painted.
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What does SP mean?
Super Performance!
Ok, no. Speed.
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Super Performance!
Ok, no. Speed.
I am not familiar with that term. Is that a 65-66 thing?
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Early cars had single speed wipers. Or 1sp.
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Just curious what you did with yours
Nothing. It is original and untouched.
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Nothing. It is original and untouched.
Wow! Very cool. Sounds like it would be great for reference
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The following posts were separated from a Members build thread as the subject sort of took off and appeared to be a good stand alone topic. So by placing it in the section it will be easier to find and viewable by members and non-members alike. Enjoy
Now that we've moved off of the focus of the original post where it focused on just the particular 68 San Jose build fastback I would like to offer some additional examples so that no one goes away forgetting about the wiper motors that had main bodies painted black
8R1246xx wiper motor appears to be bare steel
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/16/6-161021183627-161892265.jpeg)
8R1267xx wiper motor in black
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/16/6-161021183627-16190331.jpeg)
8R1364xx wiper motor in black
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-310320232733.jpeg)
8R1385xx wiper motor in black
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/16/6-161021183632-161922285.jpeg)
8R1673xx wiper motor in black
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/16/6-161021183632-16193874.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/16/6-161021183631-161911779.jpeg)
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The following posts were separated from a Members build thread as the subject sort of took off and appeared to be a good stand alone topic. So by placing it in the section it will be easier to find and viewable by members and non-members alike. Enjoy
Now that we've moved off of the focus of the original post where it focused on just the particular 68 San Jose build fastback I would like to offer some additional examples so that no one goes away forgetting about the wiper motors that had main bodies painted black
Great photos Jeff especially the last one as it looks like it has tilt-a-way. I am looking for detailed under dash photos to assist me with my underdash install
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Great photos Jeff especially the last one as it looks like it has tilt-a-way. I am looking for detailed under dash photos to assist me with my underdash install
No the last two pictures are from the same car and its not a factory or presently a tilt car.
Will see what I've got as far as decent under dash pictures and start a thread. As you already figured out some of the details will differ depending on options like tilt, AC and so on.
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No the last two pictures are from the same car and its not a factory or presently a tilt car.
Will see what I've got as far as decent under dash pictures and start a thread. As you already figured out some of the details will differ depending on options like tilt, AC and so on.
Great thanks Jeff appreciate it