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Title: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: Mustang-V8 on February 23, 2022, 05:29:14 AM
Does anyone know what the deal is with the different styles of vin tags on the dash on a 1970 ?

I see some that have the ?F? either side of the vin on the tag and others that don?t , also some look black and others have a silver finish

Right now on eBay there?s about 12 cars that prove this point

Anyone know why there?s a difference ? Was it a mid year change or something ?

Thanks
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: cobrajet_carl on February 23, 2022, 01:08:50 PM
They should be black but it can fade and flake off. The script Fs were added so people couldn't tack on another number to the VIN. VIN lengths weren't standardized until 1981. I have several DB cars and none of them has the script Fs.
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: krelboyne on February 23, 2022, 02:09:32 PM
I recommend getting Kevin Marti's - The Mustang and Cougar Tag Book (1965-1973 Models).

This subject and many more are covered. It is a very valuable book to have for reference.
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: K-HESS on February 23, 2022, 02:55:19 PM
I have a late SJ built 1970 Mach1 with the f 0R05M162xxx build date July 13 1970.
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: J_Speegle on February 23, 2022, 04:44:04 PM
Does anyone know what the deal is with the different styles of vin tags on the dash on a 1970 ?

Are you asking in general  (all plants all production periods) or about a specific period and plant?  Gets messy when you toss everything in a big bucket we're found

Why is always a difficult to answer since we're simply often guessing as to the motivates or reasons of a group of people 50 years ago or more hopefully sometime required by law or outside organizations.
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: J_Speegle on February 24, 2022, 06:27:49 AM
Does anyone know what the deal is with the different styles of vin tags on the dash on a 1970 ?

Took a look and it's pretty simple and straight forward. Just another example of a running change. Early version of the dash mounted VIN had no fancy F's and later they were added to all after the change over point. Didn't check how close to one another (plants) were in when the change took place
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: jwc66k on February 24, 2022, 01:20:34 PM
Took a look and it's pretty simple and straight forward. Just another example of a running change. Early version of the dash mounted VIN had no fancy F's and later they were added to all after the change over point. Didn't check how close to one another (plants) were in when the change took place
This same "f" would apply to all Ford and Mercury vehicles, so Cougar guys, what is your input?
Jim
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: krelboyne on February 24, 2022, 02:08:53 PM
A Federal standard was adopted by the Big 3. A special type set from A-M's 311A type series was used at the beginning of 1970.
Mid year the script "F" was added at the front and back, as an additional security measure. It helped prevent someone from adding an additional number to the VIN.
Page 160 of Kevin's book.
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: J_Speegle on February 24, 2022, 02:59:01 PM
This same "f" would apply to all Ford and Mercury vehicles, so Cougar guys, what is your input?
Jim

+1 To Scott reply. Checked Cougars and other ford and merc models when I was looking at pictures ;)
Title: Re: 1970 Mustang Dash Vin Plate
Post by: cobrajet_carl on February 24, 2022, 03:24:52 PM
Took a look and it's pretty simple and straight forward. Just another example of a running change. Early version of the dash mounted VIN had no fancy F's and later they were added to all after the change over point. Didn't check how close to one another (plants) were in when the change took place
Based on what I've seen on Dearborn cars the changeover was fairly late. Probably sometime in April or May. The VIN tag I shared above is from a car manufactured on March 24th, two days ahead of schedule. So I guess the earliest DB date is after that.