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Title: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gta289 on August 12, 2022, 09:56:14 PM
What can you tell about me?  Let's start out with one response per person for the first several replies so that everyone gets a chance.

Richard Urch - you need to recuse yourself on this one.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: Bossbill on August 12, 2022, 10:07:25 PM
I know nothing about convertibles.  Look at the list of cars in my sig!

Since I know nothing about them that shouldn't stop me from guessing it's a 1967 Convertible.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: krelboyne on August 12, 2022, 10:16:47 PM
I was going to guess, Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: midlife on August 12, 2022, 11:11:08 PM
Poison Ivy!
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: J_Speegle on August 13, 2022, 12:14:31 AM
Black interior
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: ruppstang on August 13, 2022, 12:28:34 AM
Power top
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gtasanjose on August 13, 2022, 09:52:36 AM
Richard Urch - you need to recuse yourself on this one.

I, at first, didn't see this sentence so I answered (then deleted) that I "...could answer but wouldn't be guessing" and offered a close image up of a telltale of the year of the vehicle.

And Randy, there are only two leaves on that sprig (not 3). We people who live in these here woods can spot it a mile away!
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: aaatp on August 13, 2022, 09:57:22 AM
Dual exhaust car
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gta289 on August 13, 2022, 10:05:34 AM
Evidence of dual exhaust is, I think, the Where's Waldo find.

So far we have a dual exhaust power top convertible with black interior.  This is not a 67, and there is no poison ivy in the picture, but it does abound in the area to be sure.  This is not in Oklahoma, but if there is an Oklahoma musical reference in there I'm not getting it.

Other than the obvious red exterior not mentioned, that might be it for this picture.  Later this evening I'll add another one that will make the year obvious.  In the meanwhile it would be interesting to see if anyone else can spot something that I can't and that nobody has yet.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: aaatp on August 13, 2022, 10:30:01 AM
Before you post, I'll take a crack at it. Orientation of the dual exhaust hanger bracket makes it a 65 or 66.  Absence of E-Brake cable channel in the rear floor pan would make it a 66.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: J_Speegle on August 13, 2022, 04:19:13 PM
In the meanwhile it would be interesting to see if anyone else can spot something that I can't and that nobody has yet.

Might be wrong or right - we'll see for sure but a few thoughts now that the restrictions have been dropped and others have been given some time to post


Clue  - Rear seat cushion and what is left of the material in poor condition appears to be resting where the front seat would be and the pattern does not look like 66 material for the insert. So if its not a 67 then it does not leave us with many other options if the seat is original to the car and was not tossed in the body


(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/17/6-130822152304-178452309.jpeg)

Given the rot in the floor not sure if the E brake "tunnels" would be visible in the picture provided and not all 65's had this style of main floor pan as mentioned (no individual thread discussing the detail let) in the Running Change Thread.

If it was a later car the heater box would be a clue also but not for an early car

So if the interior clue is correct and the body lacks the E brake tunnels (not sure on that one) then we might be able to narrow down to the month or months the car was built.  :)
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gtasanjose on August 13, 2022, 07:24:33 PM
Since I am not allowed to comment (yet) and John has already stated it's NOT a 67, I will offer proof of it NOT being a 67 by pointing out that the exhaust hanger pattern is 65/66. The studs for the hangers are vertical to one another. 67-69 version are diagonal to one another.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: J_Speegle on August 13, 2022, 07:55:24 PM
So your in cahoots this  :D

Accept and agree that its not a 67 Mustang just using that comment to help narrow down the choices when comparing the seat pattern
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: aaatp on August 13, 2022, 08:36:32 PM
 65 convert top motor wiring harness?
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gta289 on August 13, 2022, 09:19:00 PM
Great discussion - I'm not very familiar with the 65-66 nuances so I've learned a few things.

Here is the next picture.

As is the case with picked-over cars you can't assume that the loose parts inside are from the vehicle.  Case in point I just pulled out a 69 Mustang fastback interior rear side panel from a 67 Camaro at this same place.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: kcodecoupe on August 13, 2022, 09:33:18 PM
With the  R & L dual exhaust floor pan support plates and hanger brackets . its a 66 GT possible  K code if it has the original 9 nch rear diff axel still under it .
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: aaatp on August 13, 2022, 09:34:50 PM
65 door window regulator handle.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gta289 on August 13, 2022, 10:10:58 PM
The VIN does start with a 5.  The warranty plate date code is 09J.  Would that be Sept 9 of 65 or 66?  Dearborn assembled.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: J_Speegle on August 13, 2022, 10:17:11 PM
The VIN does start with a 5.  The warranty plate date code is 09J.  Would that be Sept 9 of 65 or 66?  Dearborn assembled.

Sept 64
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gtasanjose on August 13, 2022, 10:22:42 PM
Sept 64

When were the last of the squared corner sill plates used?
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: J_Speegle on August 13, 2022, 10:35:49 PM
When were the last of the squared corner sill plates used?

Guess your asking specifically about Dearborn and for convertible since they were different from the other two body styles. We've not posted that info in that Running Changes thread yet but will look unless someone has already done the work and posts it before I respond. Looks like I've already graphed some findings but would be good, given how long its been since i did the collection, to go through it again for new examples


A a comment about the dual exhaust mounting brackets and their orientation even that would narrow down the production period. Will leave that to others so I don't hog the responses. Maybe I should have recused myself also to let others have more time and involvement
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: kcodecoupe on August 14, 2022, 08:28:15 AM
With the  R & L dual exhaust floor pan support plates and hanger brackets . its a 66 GT possible  K code if it has the original 9 nch rear diff axel still under it .
I guess with a 5 in the vin it rules it out as a 66 and GT  . a p[icture of the firewall would help .
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gta289 on August 14, 2022, 08:44:21 AM
firewall picture
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: J_Speegle on August 14, 2022, 07:42:48 PM
When were the last of the squared corner sill plates used?

At Dearborn

https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23170.new#new (https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=23170.new#new)
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: kcodecoupe on August 15, 2022, 07:42:15 AM
firewall picture
Its hard to see from the angle of the photo and the weeds, is there a hole for a manual choke cable in the firewall.
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gta289 on August 15, 2022, 07:50:39 AM
This is the only other angle I have of this area
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: 67gta289 on August 15, 2022, 12:31:42 PM
Since the discussion died down, probably time to help answer a few questions and speculation
Title: Re: Junkyard guessing game
Post by: kcodecoupe on October 10, 2022, 09:55:18 PM
Well its  a 289 K code hipo per the vin plate, also see square corner sill plates ,with a sept 64 build it could be a generator vs an alternator charging system. cant tell if that is a choke cable near the firewall or a weed stalk, those square corner sill plates might be worth something.