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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1970 Mustang => Topic started by: Danymichy on January 06, 2023, 05:27:18 PM

Title: finishing dog dish hub caps
Post by: Danymichy on January 06, 2023, 05:27:18 PM
Hi guys, what is the original finish of these wheel hub caps?
I bought 4 used, two are almost mirror polished and the others less shiny.
In addition, three have a "straight" valve hole and one "oval football type".
What is the correct form for '70?
Title: Re: finishing dog dish hub caps
Post by: J_Speegle on January 06, 2023, 09:06:11 PM
First question related to the valve stem opening. Both were used - the "football" style was the first but its believed that this caused damage to the valve stem so the opening was redsigned to provide more clearance creating the straight side/edged version. Don't have enough data and real build dates to form an opinion or results of a survey to provide a change over date between the two. NOS/service pieces will mostly all be of the later design though

The amount of shine or finish on the pieces is another matter and what we see out there is often the results of seeing originals and NOS (service parts) especially on restore cars -  all in varying condition

I've collected some examples which I will format and post in hopes that this will help you
Title: Re: finishing dog dish hub caps
Post by: Anghelrestorations on January 06, 2023, 10:01:28 PM
This is what the correct finishes are on the cap and the trim ring as they were originally.  A good stainless shop can fix and replicate these finishes.  Trim ring that is correct is shown as well with the correct oval football style. 


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52612078820_4363bdb476_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oa9E4f)20220227_163005 (https://flic.kr/p/2oa9E4f) by Marcus Anghel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154714213@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: finishing dog dish hub caps
Post by: J_Speegle on January 07, 2023, 05:11:13 PM
As promised :)

Just a few

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/18/6-070123160932-18207724.jpeg)

Not sure that I fully trust this one since its on a restored car- could be one or the other are service replacements

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/18/6-070123160932-182061069.jpeg)

(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/18/6-070123160928-18205225.jpeg)
Title: Re: finishing dog dish hub caps
Post by: Danymichy on January 07, 2023, 05:51:28 PM
First question related to the valve stem opening. Both were used - the "football" style was the first but its believed that this caused damage to the valve stem so the opening was redsigned to provide more clearance creating the straight side/edged version. Don't have enough data and real build dates to form an opinion or results of a survey to provide a change over date between the two. NOS/service pieces will mostly all be of the later design though

The amount of shine or finish on the pieces is another matter and what we see out there is often the results of seeing originals and NOS (service parts) especially on restore cars -  all in varying condition

I've collected some examples which I will format and post in hopes that this will help you

Thank you Jeff, you are always very clear and helpful.
Title: Re: finishing dog dish hub caps
Post by: Danymichy on January 07, 2023, 06:00:46 PM
This is what the correct finishes are on the cap and the trim ring as they were originally.  A good stainless shop can fix and replicate these finishes.  Trim ring that is correct is shown as well with the correct oval football style. 


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52612078820_4363bdb476_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oa9E4f)20220227_163005 (https://flic.kr/p/2oa9E4f) by Marcus Anghel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154714213@N02/), on Flickr

Thanks so much!
So the wide part of the ring is not mirrored...
I see right?
Title: Re: finishing dog dish hub caps
Post by: Anghelrestorations on January 08, 2023, 10:36:10 AM
Correct...the wide part is a brushed finish.