ConcoursMustang Forums
1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: TLea on August 15, 2024, 06:38:14 PM
-
I feel like this should be easy to find, but I?m having problems understanding. 65 Mustang with all white deluxe interior, what is the trim code?
-
That deluxe combination, white/white, is not listed - but is might have been a special order. For a clue, what is the DSO?
Jim
-
Don't believe it was ever available and not even special order (except if your first name was Henry) since the materials to make the whole seat cover would not have been produced. Some of the guys like Drew had non-factory deluxe interior combinations made int he 80's and you might have run across one of those "improved" cars. One of his favorites was red and white decor interior
Solid Palomino would have been the closest to all white in the list. Only three interior codes identified deluxe interiors with white in even the center sections - 62 for blue and white, 67 Aqua and White & code 68 for Ivy Gold and White
-
That makes sense why I couldn?t find it. Door tag is missing, but we have identified that the car is a true GT springtime yellow with deluxe interior.
So if I understand this correctly, the only solid colors available would?ve been black, Palomino, and red?
I can?t imagine any of the accent colors would have looked good
-
Black accents with white deluxe would be nice on a yellow car. The accents are basically carpet/dashpad for that interior, everything else is white.
Was there any original paint on interior parts to at least determine if it was white?
-
Palomino deluxe is also nice, although tough to match all the colors right.
-
Black accents with white deluxe would be nice on a yellow car. The accents are basically carpet/dashpad for that interior, everything else is white.
Was there any original paint on interior parts to at least determine if it was white?
So seats/door panels/rear quarters would all be white with black dash and carpet?
Nothing left of original interior, all repo
-
So seats/door panels/rear quarters would all be white with black dash and carpet?
Yep, black seat belts too.
-
Tim,
Attached is a chart of 65-66 Mustang interior codes for standard and deluxe interiors. It's what Ford "intended" to do. It at least spells out what different interior items should be considered.
Remember that a white car interior is a pain to keep clean.
Jim
-
Thank you!
-
Still trying to get my head around this. If I read Jim chart correctly, a white interior car with black appointments would have black on the metal interior parts of the door, the windshield posts and the visors?
-
Still trying to get my head around this. If I read Jim chart correctly, a white interior car with black appointments would have black on the metal interior parts of the door, the windshield posts and the visors?
Tim,
Follow the interior code numbers. That gets us, and others, on the the same page.
My 66 GT K code Fastback is code number 62, blue/white. See attached.
Jim
-
Still trying to get my head around this. If I read Jim chart correctly, a white interior car with black appointments would have black on the metal interior parts of the door, the windshield posts and the visors?
Don't think that the chart he posted is from Ford source during production of the vehicle's since it includes both 65 and 66 interior codes. For interiors with differ colored appointments from the interior color those are 65 only combinations
Of course this is for standard interior combinations
Some examples from 65 cars
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193321-205341750.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193322-205352489.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193328-205362215.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193328-20537697.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193331-20538293.jpeg)
-
Certainly a picture is worth 1000 words right? So for what I?m seeing of Jeff?s pictures everything on the interior would be white with the exception of the carpet, seatbelts, dash pad, speaker, grill, lower windshield trim
What?s also interesting I would?ve thought the kick panels would have a carpeted black lower but none of the examples of Jeff show that
-
OK, one more, on deluxe interior would center console, would that be black or white?
-
Also want to make sure I?m barking up the right tree here. Is F6 a correct interior code for 65? I?m showing that to be white deluxe with black accents. I see other places listing it as parchment.
-
Certainly a picture is worth 1000 words right? So for what I?m seeing of Jeff?s pictures everything on the interior would be white with the exception of the carpet, seatbelts, dash pad, speaker, grill, lower windshield trim
What?s also interesting I would?ve thought the kick panels would have a carpeted black lower but none of the examples of Jeff show that
No carpet on the kick panels was limited to deluxe interior packages
Also want to make sure I?m barking up the right tree here. Is F6 a correct interior code for 65? I?m showing that to be white deluxe with black accents. I see other places listing it as parchment.
Agreed reference books (non-Ford) are all over the place with the coding. Will look to see if I've got a picture or two of a car coded that way in late 65 production Not going to be easy I think
-
Also want to make sure I?m barking up the right tree here. Is F6 a correct interior code for 65? I?m showing that to be white deluxe with black accents. I see other places listing it as parchment.
1965 Mustang dode F6 appears to be White Crinkle/Black (what ever "crinkle" is).
Jim
-
Don't think that the chart he posted is from Ford source during production of the vehicle's since it includes both 65 and 66 interior codes. For interiors with differ colored appointments from the interior color those are 65 only combinations
Of course this is for standard interior combinations
Some examples from 65 cars
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193321-205341750.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193322-205352489.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193328-205362215.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193328-20537697.jpeg)
(https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/20/6-170824193331-20538293.jpeg)
Even with the "disclaimer" that these pictures are of a STANDARD interior, why are they posted? It would still be confusing even if you read it a couple of times.
Jim
-
OK, one more, on deluxe interior would center console, would that be black or white?
Back to my reply number 8 - "Group 1" shows that both deluxe and standard consoles would be the same color. However. I remember an article in a Mustang magazine that "production problems" with 65-66 consoles prompted black ones to be installed instead of colored ones. I don't know where, when or how long this "may" have occurred. (Plus, dealers installed what they had, irrespective of color.)
Jim
-
Jeff?s picture number two shows a black console on a car with white interior and black carpet. Granted it?s not deluxe interior. I just wanna make sure I?m not trying to create a car that didn?t exist. All the TMI references on 65 white shows it to be off-white.
-
Just surfing the neck here?s an older post of a guy claiming to have an F6 tag. He didn?t post a picture of the tag to see if it?s original and it looks like someone may have changed interior at some point, but if he?s got a real warranty tag it shows at least F6 did exist at 65. His car is late May And my car although I don?t have an actual bill date was probably built in July
https://www.vintage-mustang.com/threads/1965-white-f6-interior.905561/
-
Another older thread. Someone. Appeared to be posting a picture of an F white with red interior but it?s not showing up. Post is 12 years old
https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=4394.0
-
One more, Klaus?s early Mustang site shows a picture of F6 interior but I don?t know how accurate it is and can?t see the warranty tag
-
One more, Klaus?s early Mustang site shows a picture of F6 interior
You could list the website.
Jim
-
You could list the website.
Jim
I did, but it?s just a picture and it doesn?t show a picture of the actual warranty tag or the build
date of the car
https://early-mustang.com/index.php/65-decode
-
Back to my reply number 8 - "Group 1" shows that both deluxe and standard consoles would be the same color. However. I remember an article in a Mustang magazine that "production problems" with 65-66 consoles prompted black ones to be installed instead of colored ones. I don't know where, when or how long this "may" have occurred. (Plus, dealers installed what they had, irrespective of color.)
Jim
There was a fair amount of discussion at the time that article was printed. Since we now still don't have the production data for 65-66 we can't be certain as to what cars did or did not come from the factory with consoles and which ones may have had the dealership add them to other cars to make a sale. Would not that I do have examples of deluxe/pony interior 65's with and without consoles but of course I don't have original window stickers to go with these and tell us when they were installed
Jeff?s picture number two shows a black console on a car with white interior and black carpet. Granted it?s not deluxe interior. I just wanna make sure I?m not trying to create a car that didn?t exist. All the TMI references on 65 white shows it to be off-white.
Console likely was installed IMHO by the dealer who typically only stocked the black bases in 65-66. Same reasoning goes for the deluxe/pony interior cars we find with consoles without the woodgrain. Someone likely wasn't willing to wait possibly weeks for the three or four needed panels to be ordered and shipped so they took what was on the shelf/in stock
Still looking through pictures and some door tags. Did not usually take pictures of tags since often they were missing and I used the body to organize and label things. Since deluxe interiors were only available during a short period and often to people who were watching the dollars not many out there originally. Plenty made/converted in the 80-90's
-
I did, but it?s just a picture and it doesn?t show a picture of the actual warranty tag or the build
date of the car
https://early-mustang.com/index.php/65-decode
Thanks Tim. I added it to my bookmarks.
Jim
-
Just surfing the neck here?s an older post of a guy claiming to have an F6 tag. .....
If you look through all the data plate tag information collected in the long out of print Mustang Production Guide you will find a three or four 65's with the F6 code in the list the Jim's collected back then.
-
Console usually matches the painted color of the dash panel. White interior, white console. As noted, possibly some outliers, but not the norm or what was intended.
-
Here's an example of an original '65 deluxe interior convertible with code F6 (with original data plate) for white w/black appointments. Not a great car overall, but the interior colors are the right general scheme, except for some repro pieces that look more like parchment:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-ford-mustang-convertible-122/
-
Here's an example of an original '65 deluxe interior convertible with code F6 (with original data plate) for white w/black appointments. Not a great car overall, but the interior colors are the right general scheme, except for some repro pieces that look more like parchment:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-ford-mustang-convertible-122/
The "Bring A Trailer" ad states the interior colors are Parchment with Black trim - not white.
Jim
-
Here's an example of an original '65 deluxe interior convertible with code F6 (with original data plate) for white w/black appointments. Not a great car overall, but the interior colors are the right general scheme, except for some repro pieces that look more like parchment:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-ford-mustang-convertible-122/
This is perfect. About 3 weeks earlier than one I have