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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1968 Mustang => Topic started by: Anghelrestorations on January 29, 2025, 10:19:02 PM
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Curious what others are using for the clips for the decklid molding that goes across the back of the decklid on a 68 Mustang. I have the correct hardware for the ends which uses an acorn nut...so this is a question about the other clips. The reproduction clips I have here are completely different from the originals and dont hold down the trim very well and dont see anything else out there.
The original clips (in photo below) I think are a C7ZB-63425A88-A.
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I had the same problem on my 68 Mustang fastback. NPD was the only source I could find and their clips were not correct. I explained the issue to them.
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I used the 1975 edition of Ford Car Parts (the infamous MPC) and found the attached:
- ref Illustrated Body Exterior Molding F (Mustang) page 4
Jim
The page from the 75 edition is incorrect. A "correct" page fom the 68 edition is attached for reference.
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Marcus, the ones you pictures look correct, except that they are missing the push-pin. Once the clip is inserted in the hole, you push the pin in until flush with the surface of the clip. This cinches the clip to the decklid very nicely. If you have the clips but are missing the pins, you can probably make those out of a nylon dowel or similar material. Deploy the lathe if needed, these should be very tight.
Jim, the picture you included is for the coupe/convertible, which uses a different clip design. The fastback is unique because the center clips are blind, there is no access from the back side.
The best picture I found is from the 1960-68 MPC (single year documents of this type were "parts & accessories catalogs", while the same class of documents that covered multiple years received the infamous "master" moniker as a prefix) was found on page 258 of the exterior moulding illustration section, drawing number P-5540 (attached).
This provides us with a part number, C7ZZ-6342527-A, and clearly shows the aforementioned push-pin. When I see a fastener that does not have a simple multiple-digit number (such as the 375890 shown next to this on the drawing which indicates a "standard" or "general" fastener), I consider it a fastener made for a very specific application where a standard fastener would not fit the bill. This obviously increases the cost but the designers and engineers gotta do what they gotta do in these cases. The C7Z prefix indicates that it was designed for the 1967 model year Mustang, and the 63 prefix on the 42527 basic part number provides an additional piece of information that it was designed for the fastback body style. It is my observation that most body related parts would carry the base (coupe in the case of the Mustang) number of 65, but when there is a part needed specifically for a different body style, the prefix would change. For example, all 67 Mustangs had the same fender and have a 65 basic part number prefix. For decklids, however, there is a 65 and 63 variation for obvious reasons.
Typically the fasteners would be included with the moulding in kit fashion. But since the part is identified in the illustration I took a look at the parts listing. These are listed in the text section, which means that someone could have ordered these fasteners separately. This fastener did carry over into the 1968 model year. It might have applicability elsewhere and at other times, but probably not in this case.
I snag these every chance I get. Even if I see a rusted out hulk of a decklid I can usually extract a few small nuggets of gold.
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Looks like a part that could be 3D printed.
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https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=25413.0
Poster says he found exact clips in Dynacorn trim package.
Dynacorn M3680
Also found this on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/152895437950?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&google_free_listing_action=view_item&srsltid=AfmBOordUMxsHGlfYIA_7Fmbl-WvtAta_x4zL80i_1AWTYhNRI06zcsCsuQ&gQT=2
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Looks like a part that could be 3D printed.
My neighbor does 3D printing. Depending on which process and the material used, it "might" work. I believe the originals were a "Teflon" type material and relatively tough. The materials of most of the current "trinkets" I've got could be "worked" with a blade or a file.
The best picture I found is from the 1960-68 MPC (single year documents of this type were "parts & accessories catalogs", while the same class of documents that covered multiple years received the infamous "master" moniker as a prefix) was found on page 258 of the exterior moulding illustration section, drawing number P-5540 (attached).
Yup. It took a bit of looking but I found it too. The 75 edition is incorrect and "misleading". The 60-68 is correct.
Pages from both editions are attached.
Jim
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https://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=25413.0
Poster says he found exact clips in Dynacorn trim package
With "insufficient" reference to "where" or a Dynacore stock number(aka - a poor post).
Jim
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I wanted to come back to this post based on input I got here because I now have a good solution that others can use. The rear trim kit that is the "Corvex" brand sells the trim piece, and includes the original style plastic clips. I think its about $20 to $30. The clips they supply are an exact match to the originals (except for the two end clips with the acorn nuts). But for the plastic clips these work for both original and reproduction trim on the car.
Pictures show the original and reproduction clips and installed on the car.
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How many of the plastic clips with plastic pins are needed for a 68 deck lid molding? My 67 deck lid has seven(7) square holes plus the two(2) round holes at each end. I have been trying to find a kit that has seven(7) clips/pins - no luck so far.
Beautiful car Marcus!
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Thats the right number of clips and pins.
If you buy the kit like I mentioned here you will be in good shape.