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Title: 1967 Dearborn 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on June 15, 2011, 11:50:02 PM
From my 39,000 mile 1967 390 non-GT, no AC, Dearborn car.

Could this be an original belt and is the 466 a build date?  Where is the best place to look for a build sheet. I checked under the front seats but haven't looked under the backseat yet.

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Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 16, 2011, 12:57:36 AM
466 would be 4th quarter, 1966, so legit for a '67 production year car.

About the only place you might find a build sheet might be under the carpet.  Or, possibly one stuffed somewhere.
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on June 16, 2011, 09:00:35 AM

Thanks Charles,

Build date for the car is Feb 7, 67 so belt wasn't too old.

I'll look around for the build sheet in the easy spots first. Maybe I'll get lucky.
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on June 16, 2011, 09:07:56 AM

Have you ever seen a paper tag on the rear axle of  67 Dearborn car?

Looks like it might be a series of 5's but hard to tell. Not sure of the best way to clean this without ruining it?

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Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: CharlesTurner on June 17, 2011, 01:31:54 AM
Yes, most all axles from back then were supposed to have an identification tag.  Guess it was easier than reading the metal tag for quick identification/application.
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: J_Speegle on June 20, 2011, 07:36:38 PM
Have you ever seen a paper tag on the rear axle of  67 Dearborn car?
Looks like it might be a series of 5's but hard to tell. Not sure of the best way to clean this without ruining it?

Not on that specific application but on others. Pattern includes identification numbers and such as well as a repeating pattern of what looks to be dots but they are small geometric symbols instead. Numbers and letters are printed not all in a straight line and different colored paper was used depending on year and application it appears.

Jack Brooks has some for specific applications but not all years or applications.

Might remove it and just keep it in a binder with the other car findings. Would use the wax and silicon remover treatment as mentioned before to clean buildsheets.

Nice find
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on August 14, 2011, 10:54:58 PM
Jeff,

Thanks for the info....I'll look up the wax and silicon remover treatment method you mention and give it a try when I get a chance. Here's a close up of the tag as it is and it looks to me to be some 5's?  I'll be curious to see what I find and if any color still exists.
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on August 14, 2011, 11:16:17 PM
I removed some old oil build up on the DS head and found this. Appears to be a '12' in a circle.  Common marking?
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: J_Speegle on August 16, 2011, 12:23:14 AM
Haven't seen that particular one yet but it fits patterns I've seen before at that engine plant
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: 68 S Code on August 16, 2011, 01:11:29 AM
Intresting close-up in that the head and oil dipstick tube retained blue engine paint but the block looks to be bare metal in the area shown. Did heat just burn it up?
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: 68 S Code on August 16, 2011, 01:13:34 AM
Does anyone know what the code would be on the paper tag for a 68 3.25 traction loc rear end?
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: TLea on August 16, 2011, 10:44:19 AM
Does anyone know what the code would be on the paper tag for a 68 3.25 traction loc rear end?
I'm pretty sure you don't have the build sheet, do you have the axle tag? Is it a WES G?
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on August 17, 2011, 10:46:00 PM
Intresting close-up in that the head and oil dipstick tube retained blue engine paint but the block looks to be bare metal in the area shown. Did heat just burn it up?

Good point... I was focused on the head and didn't pay much attention to the block. When I get a chance I'll clean up the block some more and look for traces of paint.

So much much dirt and grease, so little time.  ;D
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on August 17, 2011, 11:01:50 PM
I figured the battery L bracket was long gone but found it, and the hardware, stashed in the console.  8)

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Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on October 10, 2011, 11:38:54 PM

Does this indicate the car came with a GOODYEAR spare tire?

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Title: Rear Bumper date code
Post by: rodster on October 10, 2011, 11:44:42 PM
Rear bumper date code.

Jan 30 Monroe Plant 1967?  I thought on sheetmetal, the last digit designated the shift?

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Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: J_Speegle on October 11, 2011, 12:19:27 AM
Does this indicate the car came with a GOODYEAR spare tire?

At some point. Don't think we can assume that it has to be the original to leave that imprint but might be
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on October 11, 2011, 12:26:59 AM

I was thinking the sealant must have been pretty fresh/soft to leave that deep imprint?  Would the original tires have been Goodyears?
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: 68 S Code on October 11, 2011, 01:06:39 AM
Could be wiDe oval? I believe that was standard equipment on 67. Very cool find.
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on May 29, 2012, 02:10:49 AM

It appears some of the exhaust may be original?  I didn't find a date code and don't know if there would be any?

What is the part number for a 67 390 Exhaust down turn? I couldn't find one.

I find it interesting how the stamping is so thin on the one end but so deep on the other and how the horseshoe clamp is tightened unevenly. Whoever did that wasn't thinking 'concours'.  ;)

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Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: 70cj428 on May 29, 2012, 11:26:03 AM
Not sure on 67's, but on several 68's I've had, a buildsheet was folded up and taped to the wiring harness just behind the insturment cluster....
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: J_Speegle on May 30, 2012, 12:24:20 AM
Not sure on 67's, but on several 68's I've had, a buildsheet was folded up and taped to the wiring harness just behind the insturment cluster....

Sounds like a NJ car ;)
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: Scott Fuller on June 03, 2012, 11:19:05 AM
Rodster,

Your exhaust is definitely original. 

Below is a photo of an NOS tip showing the entire C7ZA number. 

The tailpipe will be stamped in two places, one on the straight section and one on the bend. 

The tailpipe in the photo is one that I made, not an original.  I can make you a perfect copy of the tip with number if you need a pair.
Scott
Title: Re: 1967 390 non GT 39,000 miles
Post by: rodster on June 10, 2012, 10:49:47 PM
Scott,

Wow, that looks great!   :)  Thanks for the info, I'll be sending you an email.

Rod