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Title: Throttle cable
Post by: Stangly on January 07, 2012, 12:26:17 AM
Does anybody have a photo of the end of the throttle cable that bolts to the firewall.  Mine is broken and has been jury rigged.  I was hoping to form a new piece out of epoxy.  The assembly manual shows a picture but it's not real clear.

Thank you,
David,
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: Andrew@MagMustangs on January 07, 2012, 01:17:58 AM
1969 or 1970? They have different Mount Styles at the Fire Wall End. Here is a 70 Cable
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: Stangly on January 07, 2012, 10:56:23 AM
69, do you have a photo.
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: krelboyne on January 07, 2012, 12:58:08 PM
This link
http://www.cougarpartscatalog.com/c9zz-9a758-a.html (http://www.cougarpartscatalog.com/c9zz-9a758-a.html)
 shows the reproduction cable with the cable end (looks like a hammer head). There are actually two versions of the 1969 throttle cable, there are steel and plastic versions of the part that bolts to the firewall.
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: Stangly on January 07, 2012, 03:40:50 PM
Thank you that photo will do, a little card board form and I should be in business.  This web site is pretty cool there is quite a bit of new old stock.

Thank you again,

David,
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: Bob Gaines on January 07, 2012, 03:55:11 PM
Thank you that photo will do, a little card board form and I should be in business.  This web site is pretty cool there is quite a bit of new old stock.

Thank you again,

David,
David, I think the fix you describe is only a stop gap solution. I have seen this tried many times with limited success. I don't think it will be long lasting. If you want to devote the time and energy to just get you going that is one thing but if that is not the case i wouldn't wast the time. There are still many in junk yards etc. Cougars used them too and are a great source. Just some of my thoughts. A repro is available but am not sure how faithful it is to the original design.Bob
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: rockhouse66 on January 07, 2012, 07:00:17 PM
The repro has a black covering on it instead of the exposed twisted wire appearance and is not similar to the original in that regard.  Yes, they were used on lots of cars and should be in junkyards, but you will be lucky to find one that does not have a broken guide sleeve on the carb end.  They are fun to look for though and worth the effort!
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: Stangly on January 07, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
I roughed up the remaining surface poured some epoxy.  It appeared to work pretty well, so I gave it the tweak test popped immediately, not enough to bond.  I will have to hit the junk yard and do some snooping on line.

Thanks guys,
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: J_Speegle on January 08, 2012, 08:16:34 PM
Repo and replacements also use the plastic firewall mount
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: rockhouse66 on January 08, 2012, 09:01:35 PM
Repo and replacements also use the plastic firewall mount

Hi Jeff,

I don't know what the change/breakdown is on the steel versus plastic firewall mounts but I think both can be originals.  I am sure the plastic one that was on my car when I got it is original because it has firewall sound deadener on it.
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: J_Speegle on January 08, 2012, 10:23:07 PM
I don't know what the change/breakdown is on the steel versus plastic firewall mounts but I think both can be originals.  I am sure the plastic one that was on my car when I got it is original because it has firewall sound deadener on it.

Mentioned it case he was replacing a metal based one. I know I wasn't happy when I got the plastic sytle

We should likely start collecting reference VINs as wee if we can identify a pattern since more and more of them are being replaced.  Will look through my sources to see what I can offer
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: rockhouse66 on January 09, 2012, 08:55:58 AM
My original plastic one is on 9R02R156640 built 3/18/69 in San Jose.
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: J_Speegle on January 09, 2012, 09:24:55 PM
My original plastic one is on 9R02R156640 built 3/18/69 in San Jose.

Ok tool a look at my San Jose pictures from 69 Mustangs and found the following (of course allot of them did not include a good picture of that particular area :(

With metal attachment throttle cables
114855
120271
125360
131545
146511
148866

With plastic attachment throttle cables
104037 (guessing this one has been replaced since it falls outside the pattern by allot of time)
156440
156640 (yours)
157240

Not a big sample so far but the pattern did appear

Again for those viewing this is 69 SAN JOSE ONLY in this post ;)
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: rockhouse66 on January 10, 2012, 09:33:22 AM
Jeff - it would make sense that the plastic design is a late version, since the service replacements were also plastic.  Looks like maybe a Feb/March changeover at SJ?  Thanks for the research!
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: Andrew@MagMustangs on January 10, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
Jeff - it would make sense that the plastic design is a late version, since the service replacements were also plastic.  Looks like maybe a Feb/March changeover at SJ?  Thanks for the research!
That was my initial thought too, and it seems feasible. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened at Dearborn and NJ also, although not necessarily at coinciding dates as existing supply would most likely be used up at each plant before the changeover. I have noticed a lot of changes around that period from Metal to Plastic, it seems the Ford bean counters decided that Plastic was more Economical to mold and produce than Metal. A lot of bits and pieces that were made of metal in 1969 were switched to plastic versions in 1970. Most of these would probably be introduced as running changes, instead of an exact Model Year Changeover. Just some thoughts to add to the discussion. :)
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: J_Speegle on January 10, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
Jeff - it would make sense that the plastic design is a late version, since the service replacements were also plastic.  Looks like maybe a Feb/March changeover at SJ?  Thanks for the research!

We all should continue to keep an eye out for more data and when I get time will take a look at the other two plants to see when their change over might have taken place.

So many details - so little time ;)
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: Andrew@MagMustangs on January 11, 2012, 12:41:31 AM
Thank You for all the time you spend on little things like this Jeff. It really helps further the knowledge of the Vintage Mustang.
Title: Re: Throttle cable
Post by: Stangly on January 15, 2012, 09:22:40 PM
My car is a dearborn car build date June 9th and is one of the plastic ones.