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Restoring - General discussions that span across many different groups of years and models => Body, Paint & Sealers => Topic started by: Skyway65 on March 12, 2012, 08:31:36 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-Coupe-1964-1-2-MUSTANG-CALIFORNIA-Original-Paint-No-Rust-Low-Mileage-Untouched-1965-/260976023304?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cc3621708#v4-42
Some nice original details here...
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Saw that yesterday on there...Looks pretty original...Wish I had the room
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Brant-
Check out the jack in the trunk, appears to have the bearing on the end as your early jack does.
Greg
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Think we've discussed this or at least its come up in other discussions about pinch weld blackout and how it seems that if a car was missed someone was assigned to "fix" it with a brush and a can of black paint that was stationed somewhere along the later part of the line. Have seen a couple of 67-8 bodies this way also. Very unusual IMHO
Interesting lic plate number also wonder if some one has added it recently
Though the double washer on the one visible fender bolt was interesting but then early Dearborn cars aren't my thing ;)
Love those black door hinges and the truck master cylinder but over all I would think it would be great if one could see the car in person
Also it looks like one or two of the jets that applied the floor color/primer sealer might have been plugged. Notice the very straight line of surface rust in line with the front frame rail going back wards
Someone also removed the trailer hitch ;) guess it wasn't period correct
Interesting trunk mat also
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Interesting lic plate number also wonder if some one has added it recently
I found out that California sent out batches of new 63 plates to every DMV in the state in 1963 from AAA thru PPP (that's a guess, the state don't know for sure either) and they did not get used at the same rate, so a plate starting with a "M" for a 64 is not unusual. Plus you can buy (ahem) an appropiate year tag on e-bay and cheat the system (heh heh heh).
Though the double washer on the one visible fender bolt was interesting but then early Dearborn cars aren't my thing ;)
It's not a double washer bolt (although I've got several that are) but a type that has a formed washer as part of the bolt and a separate disc washer similar to the bolts for a 65-66 Fastback fold down seat, see AMK Guide to Ford Fasteners 1966-73 pg 42. AMK says design change but I think it's different suppliers as well.
Jim
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I found out that California sent out batches of new 63 plates to every DMV in the state in 1963 from AAA thru PPP (that's a guess, the state don't know for sure either) and they did not get used at the same rate, so a plate starting with a "M" for a 64 is not unusual. ........
Ya - double checked my records I see a couple of N's and an M from a car out of Oakdale though I don't know where it was originally sold
It's not a double washer bolt (although I've got several that are) but a type that has a formed washer as part of the bolt and a separate disc washer similar to the bolts for a 65-66 Fastback fold down seat,..........
Guess that is what I was trying to describe - can't see if all the fender bolts are of that style
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Brant-
Check out the jack in the trunk, appears to have the bearing on the end as your early jack does.
Greg
Greg,
Yes. That just may be the correct one for an early car.
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Interesting lic plate number also wonder if some one has added it recently
Interesting trunk mat also
My 64 1/2 Coupe was sold new somewhere near LA-License Plate begins with an "O".
Trunk mat is an original Burtex backed "splatter or speckled" pattern. Here's the one in my June '64 scheduled build Dearborn Coupe:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-99PpvtJk0yo/Ty25HoI4DWI/AAAAAAAAi20/edBJqw1xHGs/s400/IMG_2453.JPG)
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Greg,
Yes. That just may be the correct one for an early car.
My research confirms that jack is correct for an early car. The "stationary" nut is welded on the outside of the "U" shaped bracket, which faces outward. Only the early jacks are constructed this way. Later jacks have the "U" shaped bracket facing the center of the jack, with the stationary nut on the inside. Other later jacks can have round or rectangular blocks in lieu of the stationary nut. The "driven" nut has the thicker washer, or bearing as it was referred to. The jack handle looks like it has an open back, which is correct for an early car. I spent months looking for those very same parts. On another note, does anyone have any thoughts why the car was registered about a year after it's scheduled build date? I thought they were selling faster than they could build them.
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Perhaps the dealer used the car as a demo or loaner; it could have sat on the showroom floor for that long?
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Wow, lots of white overspray on the bottom. Is that typical?
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Wow, lots of white overspray on the bottom. Is that typical?
Not that unusual especially if the painter was a shorter guy. Often during restorations painters today mask off the bottoms and add the overspray (an in turn only applying a minimum amount) after the paint job.
Also the white is a high contract color against that floor color
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Consider that a lot of Dearborn cars had black undercarriage primer, so a light color exterior paint will stand out more. Had one I restored a few years back, had a ton of body color over-spray on the bottom.
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My car was nearly 100% white underneath with VERY little black visible-only under the farthest to reach areas. (January '65 Dearborn)
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Here are some images of an original paint 64 1/2 black out. This is a June 1964 Dearborn car.
Click here (http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2012/04/just-detailsmustang-pinch-weld-rocker.html) to go to the blog post or picture for several more images.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jvRo8Qdqx68/T4NSIQQXcUI/AAAAAAAAlIA/GXEdbBcehUQ/s640/IMG_2718.JPG) (http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2012/04/just-detailsmustang-pinch-weld-rocker.html)