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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 Mustang => Topic started by: Stangly on May 04, 2012, 09:29:50 AM

Title: 69 Dearborn Head light wiring
Post by: Stangly on May 04, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
Does anybody have a photo showing the routing of the wiring to the head lamps, marker lights and parking lights.  I'm looking for routing and clip locations, the assembly manual is really hard to read, and most of the original setup was long gone.

Thank you,

David,
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: drummingrocks on May 04, 2012, 09:52:16 AM
I've been struggling with this also.  You're right, the assembly manual is impossible to read.  I've got a bunch of AMK wiring clips, but no idea where they're supposed to go!
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: rayms69 on May 04, 2012, 05:28:58 PM
I thought i was the only one
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: 7Lscjracer on May 11, 2012, 10:10:34 PM
Pg 35 of Scott Fuller's pdf catalog shows the 69 side marker wiring clip mounting location.
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: Stangly on May 12, 2012, 12:36:48 AM
Cool thank you!
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: Brian Conway on May 12, 2012, 11:08:45 AM
     Like to be of some help with the wiring and clips but that is a very tough location for photos.  The ' 1969 Mustang Wiring Diagram Manual ' does show the routing but does not show any attachments.  All along the lower radiator support you will find a series of holes, about 3/16", running horizontally.  The harness clips go into these holes.  My car has four clips / two on each side of the hood latch support.  The side marker clip location as shown in the Fuller photo just doesn't seem right.  I have my clips mounted to the forward mud shield lower hex head bolt.   Brian.  Metuchen 69 Mach 1
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: Stangly on May 12, 2012, 11:38:51 AM
I agree this is one of those ugly places that makes a photo almost impossible, you can barely work in their and I have small hands.  I came to this conlusion after working out the routing from the assembly manual.  I think have it correct I will try to post some photos and see what people think.

Thanks again everybody!
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: J_Speegle on May 13, 2012, 02:43:20 AM
This may help to start things

Marker light retaining bracket

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69-70%20Mustang%20Pics/9F01H143361MARKERRETAINER.jpg)



Marker light wire tied to bumper arm & routing for turn lamp- that wire has a pink staple around the wires to hold them together (sdhown porly in pic)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69-70%20Mustang%20Pics/9F02M216967turnanmarkerwiring.jpg)




Small looms attach at the bottom corner of the #1 cross member - one slip dislodged from mounting hole

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69-70%20Mustang%20Pics/9F01F141918rotnumbr.jpg)



Overhead shot of the general area

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69-70%20Mustang%20Pics/9fHDwiring.jpg)



Headlight short looms hangs from headlight bucket (round black plastic loop holes it to the assy)

(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/69-70%20Mustang%20Pics/9fHDwiring3.jpg) 
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: drummingrocks on May 13, 2012, 06:14:00 PM
Rich, you can send them to me and I'll put them on the forum so they can be viewed by everyone.  My email is drummingrocks@hotmail.com
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: Stangly on May 13, 2012, 11:45:03 PM
Jeff, great photos this helps alot, I was pretty close, need to correct a few things.  I was not aware of the clip at the marker light, but see it is available at NPD.  I saw the note about the strap in the assembly manual but wasn't sure what it was connected to, the diagram is tough to read. Thanks again everybody for the responses and help, the photos of these unmolested cars is a real bonus.
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: J_Speegle on May 14, 2012, 02:04:55 AM
Jeff, great photos this helps alto, I was pretty close, need to correct a few things.  I was not aware of the clip at the marker light, but see it is available at NPD.  I saw the note about the strap in the assembly manual but wasn't sure what it was connected to, the diagram is tough to read. Thanks again everybody for the responses and help, the photos of these unmolested cars is a real bonus.

Glad to help - and as always check what the assembly manuals show against good original cars from the same plant and time period as the car your working on ;)
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: drummingrocks on May 14, 2012, 11:06:43 AM
Click the link below to view the pictures Rich sent.  Thanks, Rich!

http://img208.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=084qe.jpg
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: rockhouse66 on May 14, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
I have removed the plastic clips from the side marker light studs on two original "junkyard" Dearborn cars, and both were installed as shown in Jeff's picture and as illustrated on the Scott Fuller website.  I mention this because the original post appears to pertain to a Dearborn car and the pictures of the Metuchen car differ.
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: svo2scj on May 14, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
Hi Guys
ON THIS - I had wire ties on the front of my 4/21/69 SJ built car.  BUT it was missing the lower valance !

So would this plant, that time frame use the clips?   

Mark
Title: Re: Head light wiring
Post by: J_Speegle on May 15, 2012, 12:44:26 AM
I have removed the plastic clips from the side marker light studs on two original "junkyard" Dearborn cars, and both were installed as shown in Jeff's picture and as illustrated on the Scott Fuller website.

Just as a confirmation the pics in my post are from Dearborn cars

I mention this because the original post appears to pertain to a Dearborn car and the pictures of the Metuchen car differ.

Yes we have to be careful IMHO since we have found many of these little details to be different from plant to plant.

Note - did modify the title to reflect the original request
Title: Re: 69 Dearborn Head light wiring
Post by: priceless on May 15, 2012, 08:25:20 AM
Hey all, Check out this website I found just surfing the internet. It's a green '69 Mach 1 SJ Mustang, seems to be original or unrestored except regular maintenance stuff, exhaust , etc.  Also, noticed trunk mat isn't correct for the Mustang. I noticed the right front wheel well, That the marker light wire is held to the bottom of the headlight bucket with one of the small black clips.  Pretty cool to look at. The website is: www.picasaweb.google.com/dustycars/1969Mach1Green#5617068899449228738.  It might be case sensative, so I used capital letters at Mach1Green...Enjoy....Rich
Title: Re: 69 Dearborn Head light wiring
Post by: Stangly on May 15, 2012, 09:17:03 PM
Guys,

Thank you for all the help and the great photos.  This thread is going to be a huge help to all of us first timers.  It's interesting to see the differences between the cars from the various plants.  I noticed that in the Dearborn photos it showed the wires for the parking lights running under the bumper bracket.  The pictures Rich sent from the Metuchen plant show them over top of the bracket.  Jeff does the short head lamp wire have a clip that holds it to the head light extension, wasn't sure about this connection.

Thank you again to everybody this was an area of my car that was missing alot of items and this thread has cleared things up.

David,
Title: Re: 69 Dearborn Head light wiring
Post by: Stangly on May 16, 2012, 09:39:25 PM
Jeff,

I found (master parts manual ) where the short head lamp clips to thanks again for all the help.
Title: Re: 69 Dearborn Head light wiring
Post by: J_Speegle on May 18, 2012, 12:39:41 AM
Jeff,

I found (master parts manual ) where the short head lamp clips to thanks again for all the help.

Glad you found the info - was out on the road visiting cars the last couple of days. Show season can be a busy one ;)