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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: myblue67 on February 07, 2013, 01:25:23 AM

Title: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: myblue67 on February 07, 2013, 01:25:23 AM
I'm new to this forum.  I just got a 14 piece decal kit from CJ Pony.  I figured that this was the best place to find out the correct place to put the stickers.  The car is a 67 sport sprint I6 200 three speed manual, manual drum, manual steering, no A/C.  The kit came with...


-Battery test OK decal (DEC194)
-Service specification decal (DEC052)
-Autolite spark plug air cleaner decal (DEC160)
-Oil filler cap decal (DEC164)
-Coil decal (DEC224)
-Glove box tire pressure decal (DEC282)
-Jacking instructions decal (DEC044)
-Rear gravel pan tie-down decal (DEC284)
-Voltage regulator decal (DEC348)
-Power disc brake master cylinder decal (DEC332)
-Jack base decal (DEC036)
-Air cleaner service instructions decal (DEC149)
-Air cleaner "Front" decal (DEC150)
-Air cleaner part number decal (DEC261)
-sport sprint decal

Thanks you!
SG
Title: Re: Decal locations
Post by: 67gta289 on February 07, 2013, 07:55:37 AM
The standard question for someone's first post of this nature is this - what assembly plant and what build date?  These things don't matter in some cases, but in others, such as this, they do.  I recommend editing your profile so that it is included in every post.  That way you don't have to remember.
Title: Re: Decal locations
Post by: myblue67 on February 07, 2013, 12:02:08 PM
Haha. Sorry. I already edited my post three times because I forgot info. It was built in san jose June of 67. I can give you the exact date when i get home. I'll also add it to my profile.

Thanks
Title: Re: Decal locations
Post by: 67gta289 on February 07, 2013, 01:07:48 PM
No problem.  Thanks for making me look smarter than I am (for a moment anywa), by being able to reply to your post...albeit without answering your question.  I have to leave this answer to those that have expertise on this topic.  I will be watching intently, because I hope to be to the point on my restoration of doing finishing touches like putting stickers on.
Title: Re: Decal locations
Post by: myblue67 on February 07, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
Thanks for the suggestion. Iv got my signature now. And i gotta make one on the other forums I'm on also.
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 07, 2013, 10:40:45 PM
First welcome  to the site

Since we're a concours site the focus is on what is original not just what will work. For that reason many of the decals you received in these "kits" will not be used and not like originals

I'm new to this forum.  I just got a 14 piece decal kit from CJ Pony.  I figured that this was the best place to find out the correct place to put the stickers.  The car is a 67 sport sprint I6 200 three speed manual, manual drum, manual steering, no A/C.  The kit came with...

Guessing this is a non- thermactor car - correct?


-Battery test OK decal (DEC194) - Not like original in material or printing - don't use IMHO. Originally attached above (normally) above the starter relay on the inner fender panel, passenger side in front of shock tower

-Service specification decal (DEC052) - Drivers side shock tower. May be at the location in the picture or approx 6 inches below

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-100320234046.jpeg)



-Autolite spark plug air cleaner decal (DEC160) - Never seen one on an original engine - your size, plant and year. though if showing at MCA they will be looking for it so if you choose, top of air cleaner at the rear opposite the Sport Sprint

-Oil filler cap decal (DEC164) - Never seen one on an original engine - your size, plant and year

-Coil decal (DEC224) - Don't use - originally this was an ink or paint stamped detail. Get yours stamped IMHO

-Glove box tire pressure decal (DEC282)  - Drivers side of the glove box liner so that it can be read by the passenger

-Jacking instructions decal (DEC044) - Bottom side of trunk lid - One of two locations I would choose as shown in the picture based on your cars details

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-100320234029.jpeg)



-Rear gravel pan tie-down decal (DEC284) - Under the rear license plate

-Voltage regulator decal (DEC348) - Don't use - originally this was an ink or paint stamped detail. Get yours stamped IMHO

-Power disc brake master cylinder decal (DEC332) - Don't use, you have manual brakes

-Jack base decal (DEC036) - one the lower arm of the jack

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-100320234236.jpeg)



-Air cleaner service instructions decal (DEC149) - Driver side of the air cleaner (side of air cleaner )

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-100320233838.jpeg)


-Air cleaner "Front" decal (DEC150) - Never seen one used, your year, engine and plant

-Air cleaner part number decal (DEC261)- Never seen one used, your year, engine and plant

-sport sprint decal - Top of air cleaner at front

(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/13/6-100320233928.jpeg)

Missing from the kit is the engine ID sticker (not sure if anyone is currently making those commercially)


Hope this helps
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: myblue67 on February 08, 2013, 01:58:34 AM
Thanks. You want the VIN or just the build date?
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 08, 2013, 02:03:11 AM
Thanks. You want the VIN or just the build date?

Either will work since at best we'll be within a two month spread within that production period
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: myblue67 on February 08, 2013, 03:51:25 PM
Either will work since at best we'll be within a two month spread within that production period

Ok my Marti report says...

Built in San Jose
DSO denver ordering district
Order received 05/25/67
Car serialized 05/26/67
Bucked --
Schedules for build 06/08/67
Actually built 06/07/67
Released 06/08/67
Sold 06/20/67

Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: myblue67 on February 08, 2013, 03:52:14 PM
VIN 7R01T219XXX
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 08, 2013, 08:37:19 PM
Thanks - picture added above
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: myblue67 on February 08, 2013, 08:50:19 PM
Thanks - picture added above

Thanks
Which ones did you just add?  And what is the best way to paint the engine bay? I just painted  it with black spray paint and ran out halfway through. The second can I used came out more grey so it looks really dumb. I need to redo it so what should I use?

Thanks
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 08, 2013, 09:06:36 PM
Thanks
Which ones did you just add?  And what is the best way to paint the engine bay? I just painted  it with black spray paint and ran out halfway through. The second can I used came out more grey so it looks really dumb. I need to redo it so what should I use?

Thanks

Added the trunk jack picture.

To stay on thread (we like to keep things neat here ;)  why don't you start a new thread in the paint section and I'm sure you'll get allot of suggestions from others that have faced the same issues

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?board=24.0 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?board=24.0)
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: craig429 on February 09, 2013, 11:50:02 AM
Jeff, Does anyone make a "Battery Test Ok" decal that is correct?
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 10, 2013, 02:05:02 AM
Jeff, Does anyone make a "Battery Test Ok" decal that is correct?


Not commercially - Some one use to make the plastic reproduction ones in the correct color years ago but believe they stopped. You kind of need that since the original paper style will not hold up to the elements - though those can be had - just don't last.
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: ruppstang on February 10, 2013, 10:48:33 AM
The ECS ones are not too bad.
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 10, 2013, 02:49:12 PM
The ECS ones are not too bad.

Marty unless they have changed them recently  IMHO they aren't very close

First I must say that very very few of these paper (with no clear plastic covers) remain today. Weather and elements have taken their toll long ago on what was likely meant to be a temporary item.

Checked their current web page and noticed the following when comparing the one displayed there with originals

1- Color of ink used in different

2- Design (pattern of the printed pattern) is not correct for 67-68

3- The filled out information is from a 69 Dearborn decal - different from at least 67-68 San Jose and Dearborn

So other than the shape of the sticker and a couple of the details being similar ;)


And of course (though as mentioned above not what you may want on a car being used) the material the sticker/decal is made from

Just my observations after thirty + years seeking original examples out
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: myblue67 on February 11, 2013, 04:21:44 PM
Added the trunk jack picture. 

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?board=24.0 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?board=24.0)

Do you have a picture of a glove compartment with the tire pressure sticker?
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 11, 2013, 08:11:48 PM
Do you have a picture of a glove compartment with the tire pressure sticker?

Checked through about 10K pictures and no one example - sorry
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: myblue67 on February 12, 2013, 01:57:12 AM
Checked through about 10K pictures and no one example - sorry

Ok.  I can take a pic of the faded sticker on my original air cleaner to add to your collection if you want or need.  Do I put the the tie-down sticker on the backside of the license plate or behind the plate on the valence?

Thanks
SG
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 12, 2013, 02:13:58 AM
Ok.  I can take a pic of the faded sticker on my original air cleaner to add to your collection if you want or need.

You can post it here

  Do I put the the tie-down sticker on the backside of the license plate or behind the plate on the valence?

On the valance behind where the plate would go
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: myblue67 on February 14, 2013, 11:31:57 PM
You can post it here

On the valance behind where the plate would go

Do you have a pic of the sticker behind the valence? Seems like the sticker i have is too big. I would have to put it over the valence screws and a little lip on the bottom.
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: J_Speegle on February 15, 2013, 12:37:18 AM
Do you have a pic of the sticker behind the valence? Seems like the sticker i have is too big. I would have to put it over the valence screws and a little lip on the bottom.

They don't "fit " and were designed not to last too long - and because of this once exposed at a yard notmally don't last a week

Here are two examples from 66 I had handy- normally they lap over on the lower lic plate bracket (not always pressed nice and smooth but bridged across) or higher on the valance '


(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/10/6-020518192854.jpeg)


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Paint%20Marks/Decalsn%20and%20stickers/6R08A117445tiedown_zpsea32f719.jpg)
Title: Re: 67 San Jose Decal locations - Purchased "Kit"
Post by: Dudley on February 15, 2013, 08:18:56 AM
Do you have a picture of a glove compartment with the tire pressure sticker?

I will post a picture of the tire pressure sticker in my car later this morning, though mine is a '68 SJ June build. 
A couple years ago I got adventurous and lifted up the carpet on the front passenger side to look for a build sheet. I didn't find it, but I did find the paper backing that came from the tire pressure sticker. It was in halves, but I thought it interesting that the paper backing was stamped 'Mustang", apparently to further identify what type of car the sticker was for.
The sticker on mine is centered on the glove box insert, between the two screws that hold the box insert to the glove box door. The front edge of the sticker is located on the edge of the cutout of the insert for the lock latch.

Okay, as promised..........