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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1969 Mustang => Topic started by: TLea on February 13, 2013, 09:39:02 PM
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69 Dearborn vert. There are 2 holes that are located between the door jam switches, one square, one round about 1/4". The square one if for a locator tab on the back of the weatherstrip and is not used on vert A pillar weather strips. The round hole has a corresponding hole in the weatherstrip but not metal backed like the ones the screws go in. What goes in it? I'm thinking plastic push pin?
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Tim...you need to repost that picture...its not coming thru clear.
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Hmmm Its clear on mine, could it be your browser?
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I can also see that pic fine.
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Ok...computer problems fixed now. Attaching some pictures here that show the two holes. One of them is used as a locating tab for the stainless trim and the other is not used at all. Pictures show it from the back installed and from the side and front so you can see. I have several cars that are the same way. You can also see whats left of the original material used between the body and the stainless....similiar to the brake booster gasket material.
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(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z213/azscj/DSCN5116_zps2e90db70.jpg)
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Thanks Marcus, that is perfect. Safe to assume thats a coupe?
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Yep...its a coupe.
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Yep...its a coupe.
Coupe and fastback have the metal channel there that hold the weatherstrip, vert does not. I'm still checking but I think the vert gets a plastic pin that goes through weatherstrip into the round hole
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I'm still checking but I think the vert gets a plastic pin that goes through weatherstrip into the round hole
I believe you're correct, I used the pin there in my own vert. Without one, there is nothing securing that section of weatherstrip but glue, which would quickly fail with repeated door openings. I, too, would like to see a definitive answer, but I think you're right.
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Found the answer per Ford assembly drawing. Takes pin 382570 S 1/4" hole, 1/2" head, 1/4" mat thickness. The entire weather strip gets backed with foam tape .12 thick x .88 wide. Probably the same as what Marcus showed on coupe weatherstrip retainer. The pin is vert only. AMK sells it in a 10 pack under B 10764.
Clip is also used by GM as a seal retainer
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Anybody have a source for the .12 x .88 foam tape?
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I asked about that foam tape a long time ago, 3M double sided tape was the concensus. I would prefer something closer to original myself. I was thinking a little seam sealer apllied to remaining foam tape on the weatherstrip to seal it up. When i removed mine most stayed with the stainless, but i would rather start with clean stainless and fresh tape, but....
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Do we know that the foam tape is double sided sticky? Its different than the double sided used to hold roof rail moldings
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Do we know that the foam tape is double sided sticky? Its different than the double sided used to hold roof rail moldings
Feels and looks that way after 45 years. Day one? can't be sure. There might be a note in the assembly manual
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i just looked at my removed roof rail weatherstriping stainless, the backside(to the car) has the foam tape. When i took it off, very little needed to be cleaned off the car, 95% was still on the stainless. Thats why i was just going to clean the edges a little neater than factory and use some eastwood seam sealer when i put it back on. It looks like most of the glue( which there wasnt much used) pulled off with the weatherstripping when i pulled it out of the channel of the stainless. This was original stuff, i was the first to touch it. Dearborn 10-20-69. The glue in the channel is more black in appearance. As opposed to the yellowish glue on the door weatherstrip. I still havent done the drivers side which i was gonna do in the spring. I will take a closer look at the drivers side Friday when im off for the weekend. it again hasnt been touched since the factory did it when it was born, just to reassure myself. Dont remember any double sided tape though in between weatherstrip and stainless.
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i just looked at my removed roof rail weatherstriping stainless, the backside(to the car) has the foam tape.
Dont remember any double sided tape though in between weatherstrip and stainless.
The car in question is a vert. They dont have stainless between jamb and weatherstrip like coupe/fastback
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Guess I don't know what a vert is, I will shut up then
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SOrry Tim no 69-70 convertibles in the shop this week to check :(
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conVERTible, my bad, that makes sense now, 43 and still learning the basics
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It's from a new language called - "text".
Jim
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It's from a new language called - "text".
Jim
we were calling them verts long before texting was even a concept. and before al gore invented internet ;D
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cool never thought about it, im a major fastback fan, im terrible about verts and coupes, they have never been of interest to me. Thats probably why, any how, i just received a catalog because the site looked interesting, classicautoparts.com. They have an adhesive backed body to frame tape in 20'rolls, measuring 1.5"x1/8" and 2"x1/8". It looks kind of promising, they list as OEM#B-5000-AS and BS. It says adhesive backed and special body cushion? Maybe not so great, but maybe worth a look. I might give them a shout tommorow for the material details.
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Ask them what color it is. Sounds promising
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No good, its black, but cloth based, ugh
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what do you think?
http://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/rough-plumbing/pipes-tubing-fittings/pipe-insulation-heat-cable/pipe-insulation/foam-tape-1-8-x-2-x-30/p-1462837.htm
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i think thats the stuff we talked about before on this forum, closest in appearance