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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: PraireBronze on May 08, 2013, 10:49:36 PM
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In my stash of pictures I found 2 that show the clip that holds the axle vent hose to the underbody. They both use different holes. Which one is correct?
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Not sure if it was the same for all plants but my 65 Dearborn car uses the hole as in your first picture but the clamp is in the opposite position with the hose above the bolt.
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Ignore the "extra" parts ;) Same vent tube - same workers. Might have been a way the employees were instructed to install them or it might have been left to to the worker but at least we know that at least one worker did it this way ;)
Have 4 or 5 original shots with the same routing - 65 San Jose
Hope this helps
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/65%20Shelby/65axlevent_zps2fbcea2f.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/firetrainer/media/65%20Shelby/65axlevent_zps2fbcea2f.jpg.html)
Looks like same clamp
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/Indiviual%20Parts/Suspension/axleventkit_zps0d6a9c74.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/firetrainer/media/Indiviual%20Parts/Suspension/axleventkit_zps0d6a9c74.jpg.html)
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Here's a picture of my 65 Dearborn, April 19 build date.
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Here's a picture of my 65 Dearborn, April 19 build date.
Different plant - different workers ;)
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Could have had something to do with dual exhaust, but not sure.
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Could have had something to do with dual exhaust, but not sure.
That crossed my mind too, but I don't have the extensive knowledge of these cars like you guys do.
My best recollection is that it was in the top hole on my car when I took it apart, but my car was a single exhaust and I'm converting to dual, so that really doesn't help any. I also tried screwing the bolt into both holes, and wouldn't you know it, it easily threads into both! So that doesn't do me any good either.
The assembly manual shows it going into the top hole. But if this is indeed a single vs dual exhaust difference, then that probably doesn't help either. It's interesting that there are 2 holes on the drivers side and neither on the passenger side. This might help to indicate that it is a single vs dual issue as there doesn't seem to be anything that would use the other hole.
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This is the set up on my car. Picked up at the dealership 5/29/65 so the actual, San Jose, build date could be a bit earlier. Brian
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From a trip today - C code 66 San Jose from around #171xxx
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f49/firetrainer/66%20Mustang/66%20Unibody/6R07C171xxxventline_zpsae4a8d81.jpg) (http://s44.photobucket.com/user/firetrainer/media/66%20Mustang/66%20Unibody/6R07C171xxxventline_zpsae4a8d81.jpg.html)
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It looks consistent to me, looking at all the unrestored pictures, that the single exhaust cars use the top hole and the dual exhaust cars use the bottom hole.
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Have pics of the K convertible before disassembly and the clamp was in the upper hole. Feb '65 San Jose car. Found an example of a '66 Shelby that had it on the lower.
Interesting detail, but may or may not be tied to dual exhaust.
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interesting...is the vent hose marked or textured at all??Who makes the best concourse one?
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The original hoses I have seen are smooth with a ribbed line or lines. Sometimes there is a small paint daub or marking near or under where the clamp attaches. The repro clamp is a little bigger than original.
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Sometimes there is a small paint daub or marking near or under where the clamp attaches.
What I have seen on 65/66 cars is a silver paint daub that is covered by the clamp when installed. I'm assuming this was to indicate where to install the clamp on the hose, insuring the hose wasn't too loose or tight when the rear end was installed.
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I have seen many times on original 65-69 cars vent hose when taken off cars , as well as many of the vent hoses in the kits with yellow markings indicating where to locate the hose into the clamp.
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No printing on the hose but they (like most hoses) can carry a rib to identify the maker. Have seen these with single or no rib.
Sorry never purchased a reproduction so can't comment
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Darn..just got mine in the mail from parts house..all bad...anyone have a good original to spare
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No printing on the hose but they (like most hoses) can carry a rib to identify the maker. Have seen these with single or no rib.
Sorry never purchased a reproduction so can't comment
A local shop had ordered one a while back. It sucked compared to the original.
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yea mine was stamped the entire length "goodyear" and something else I cant remember right now..goodyear...
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You can wipe off the markings with some lacquer thinner. Then it's just missing the raised rib line(s).
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Ahhhh that will work, thanks!! probably wont find a nice original one of those...
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Most originals I have seen are torn apart or the rubber is cracked up and crumbling.
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Just so all non perfect original vent tube hoses aren't automatically thrown away. As mentioned many are found crumbling at the axle tube end where it fits over the tube fitting. You are many times but not always able because of the length of the hose to fudge it enough to make one work after cutting off the typically 1 inch section at the axle tube fitting that is crumbling and unusable..
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FYI..just got off the phone with Dead nuts on to order a rubber hose replacement for our choke cable...got into just discussions about our car and mentioned the vent tube...he said he just made a factory concourse correct ribbed hose...I cant speak on the details on what cars these are correct for but he said the are on...he is working on having correct crimp clamps made soon...ordered mine already...well hope that helps someone...he said it was ok to post about it..
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I just removed the rear end out of our mustang, Oct 64 build date San Jose V-8 single exhaust, to restore it. The rear end still had the original id tag on it. The PO had removed the vent hose fitting and used a bolt with a hole drilled in it to hold the brake line and vent the rear diff :o
After reading this thread on the vent hose fitting and seeing the pictures I thought I would share a picture of what I found when I looked under our car for the hose routing. There was a portion of the original hose in the clamp, the top hole was used to install the clamp, that was routed into the grommet.
I am going to clean off all the undercoating that the PO sprayed the clamp, bolt & grommet so it will have the original finish & look. I have found a used original vent fitting in great shape as well a NOS kit vent hose kit (hose has the yellow dab of paint on it). The previous PO installed air shocks on the car back around 1992 . I plan to find some more original looking type shocks and getting rid of those air shocks.