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Title: 1966 200 six Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 13, 2013, 12:24:09 PM
1966 200 six

The carb on this engine is a Holley 1V. Did Ford use Holley, Carter and Autolite carbs on these engines or just the Autolite 1100?
The numbers on the Holley carb seem to me to be Ford numbers. Here they are:

On the side near the accel pump #6R3685B
                                                            A-6

On the accel pump # 34R-5008B

On the linkage side #4694-2
                                    9796


If this is the original carb, I'd like to have it rebuilt. Anyone have a link for a rebuilder?

Also, where did Ford put the casting numbers/ID numbers on the hood? The hood I'm working with may be a
reproduction since I can't seem to find any numbering on it.

Thanks
Jeff
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: carlite65 on May 13, 2013, 03:16:09 PM
the only #'s on the hood are the date codes. you should have an autolite 1100 carb on the six. try here for rebuilder. http://www.carbontooters.com
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: J_Speegle on May 13, 2013, 04:45:20 PM
Don't believe any early 6 cylinder Mustangs used a Holley -  just Autolite's as mentioned
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 13, 2013, 10:18:06 PM
Thanks for the info guys.......I'll be looking for an 1100.....

Jeff
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 13, 2013, 10:18:47 PM
the only #'s on the hood are the date codes. you should have an autolite 1100 carb on the six. try here for rebuilder. http://www.carbontooters.com

Clicked on the link and it was no good......Jeff
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: carlite65 on May 13, 2013, 10:28:12 PM
try this instead....  http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2gsgu/index.html
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 14, 2013, 05:23:34 PM
try this instead....  http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2gsgu/index.html

That worked!...I'll place in favorites......Jeff
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: Carbontooters1 on May 15, 2013, 01:00:35 PM
For the years of 1963-1969 Ford used the Autolite 1100 only. They did use a Holley 1940 as a replacement in 1970. 1968 and 69 are different from the 63-67 1100 due to the change of the distributor. Both series of carbs work well, but the 1940 does not get very good fuel economy in comparison to the 1100. Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: J_Speegle on May 15, 2013, 01:09:37 PM
For the years of 1963-1969 Ford used the Autolite 1100 only. They did use a Holley 1940 as a replacement in 1970. 1968 and 69 are different from the 63-67 1100 due to the change of the distributor. Both series of carbs work well, but the 1940 does not get very good fuel economy in comparison to the 1100. Hope this helps!

Thanks for the confirmation  didn't think the Holleys were used originally ;)
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: C5ZZ on May 15, 2013, 10:36:14 PM
Thanks for the info guys.......I'll be looking for an 1100.....

Jeff

Do you have a automatic or manual trans?
There were two different 1100's used on the 66 200

M/T used a single diaphram
A/T used dual diaphram

Here is a picture of the A/T version with the SCV
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: J_Speegle on May 15, 2013, 11:39:03 PM
Do you have a automatic or manual trans?
There were two different 1100's used on the 66 200..........

And four different numbers depending on trans and if it came with Thermactor ;)
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 16, 2013, 10:51:24 AM
Don't believe any early 6 cylinder Mustangs used a Holley -  just Autolite's as mentioned

Today, I found the following for the Holley 1V carb. According to the reference book Mustang 1964.5 to 1973 Restoration Guide, Copyright  1998 Corcoran/Davis on page199 shows that the Holley Carb was used in 1965/1967 on the 200 six cylinder.
Year     CID     Type     ID                Part #                   
65/67   200     H-1       D0PF-K        D0PZ-9510-A

Since the designation 1965/1967 was used, does this mean that 1966 is not included?
There are quite a few listings for the Autolite, Holley and Carter for carbs used on the 200 six.

The reading of this chart shows that the 66 was listed separately and it shows 1966/1967 and 1966/1969.
I would then assume that the Holley I have is for a 1965/1967 200 six.

Jeff         
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: carlite65 on May 16, 2013, 11:10:30 AM
look at those p/n's. they are for 1970. holley carb was used as a service replacement. you need the correct 1100.
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 16, 2013, 11:42:41 AM
Do you have a automatic or manual trans?
There were two different 1100's used on the 66 200

M/T used a single diaphram
A/T used dual diaphram

Here is a picture of the A/T version with the SCV

I have the C4 transmission..
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 16, 2013, 11:49:24 AM
look at those p/n's. they are for 1970. holley carb was used as a service replacement. you need the correct 1100.

I agree...so why would they (authors) list them in the book as original or at least state they are service replacements?

jeff
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: NEFaurora on May 16, 2013, 11:56:59 AM
Only Autolite 1100 1v's were used originally on 1965-1966 Mustang 6 cylinder cars from the factory.  In 1970, Ford started supplying Carter 1v's on Mustangs, Falcons, and other New Fords.  It was the same Carter 1v carb that was used on AMC Jeeps at the time. In the Mid 1970's through the Early 1980's, The Holley 1v was used as a Ford Service Replacement Part at Ford Dealerships as it worked very well, was easily obtainable, was somewhat dependable, and did not have the Cold start issues of the Autolite 1100's and Carter 1v's.  The original Ford air-cleaners did not fit the Holley 1v carbs very well or not at all.  They were usually tossed or replaced with a different aircleaner.  There were also height fitment problems as well, so many original air cleaners either did not fit or had to be retrofitted to work.

Tony K.


Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 16, 2013, 12:12:01 PM
look at those p/n's. they are for 1970. holley carb was used as a service replacement. you need the correct 1100.

From the restoration guide the following part numbers listed:
For 66; One of these two are what I would be looking for:
C6DF-C         C6DZ0-9510-A
C6OF-G         C6OZ-9510-D

Then for 66/67
C7DF-J           C6DZ-9510-E
C7DF-K           C6OZ-9510-M

Then for 66/69
C8PF-L           C6DZ-9510-F

Jeff
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 16, 2013, 12:12:49 PM
Only Autolite 1100 1v's were used originally on 1965-1966 Mustang 6 cylinder cars from the factory.  In 1970, Ford started supplying Carter 1v's on Mustangs, Falcons, and other New Fords.  It was the same Carter 1v carb that was used on AMC Jeeps at the time. In the Mid 1970's through the Early 1980's, The Holley 1v was used as a Ford Service Replacement Part at Ford Dealerships as it worked very well, was easily obtainable, was somewhat dependable, and did not have the Cold start issues of the Autolite 1100's and Carter 1v's.  The original Ford air-cleaners did not fit the Holley 1v carbs very well or not at all.  They were usually tossed or replaced with a different aircleaner.  There were also height fitment problems as well, so many original air cleaners either did not fit or had to be retrofitted to work.

Tony K.

Thanks for the info Tony.....
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: CharlesTurner on May 16, 2013, 01:43:58 PM
From the restoration guide the following part numbers listed:
For 66; One of these two are what I would be looking for:
C6DF-C         C6DZ0-9510-A
C6OF-G         C6OZ-9510-D

Then for 66/67
C7DF-J           C6DZ-9510-E
C7DF-K           C6OZ-9510-M

Then for 66/69
C8PF-L           C6DZ-9510-F

Jeff

Which book did you get that from?  If it's the Corcoran Mustang Restoration Guide, please be careful with the information as there are known errors and information regarding part numbers is taken from the 1975 version of the Ford master parts catalog, that has lots of updated/superseded numbers in it.
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: koski19 on May 16, 2013, 08:10:24 PM
Which book did you get that from?  If it's the Corcoran Mustang Restoration Guide, please be careful with the information as there are known errors and information regarding part numbers is taken from the 1975 version of the Ford master parts catalog, that has lots of updated/superseded numbers in it.

Bought a bogus book with outdated/incorrect info?......Bummer.......Thanks for letting me know.....Jeff
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: C5ZZ on May 16, 2013, 11:37:16 PM
And four different numbers depending on trans and if it came with Thermactor ;)

Jeff, yes there are more that are calibrated differently but two different main bodies.
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: C5ZZ on May 16, 2013, 11:42:51 PM
From the restoration guide the following part numbers listed:
For 66; One of these two are what I would be looking for:
C6DF-C         C6DZ0-9510-A
C6OF-G         C6OZ-9510-D

Then for 66/67
C7DF-J           C6DZ-9510-E
C7DF-K           C6OZ-9510-M

Then for 66/69
C8PF-L           C6DZ-9510-F

Jeff

I currently have a C6OF-AC dual diaphram Autolite 1100 on my 200
Title: Re: Carbs
Post by: Sam Cro on May 17, 2013, 02:43:33 PM
What are they worth ? Never been rebuilt , and original 1966 auto light 1100

Sam