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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1968 Mustang => Topic started by: Oz390 on August 26, 2013, 08:14:56 AM
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As posted in a few other threads, have a April 68 GT/CS I am taking apart for a repaint. The more I clean and prep, the less I want to do... it has had the front bumper and arms (72 ink stamped service replacements, interesting stamps , will post pics once I get them) replaced, I think the left front fender (ford service replacement based on the red oxide primer, and the driver door (sourced a clean original that will go on).
In looking at the underside it is coming up very nice. Road grime only, no rust. original red oxide, runs, pimples and all, coming to light again. Original rear end, engine (VIN stamped) and trans (hoping to find a VIN stamp). Original metal for engine bay (no battery tray rot!), radiator support/crossmember, rails, floors and the door jambs back. So am going to keep the repaint to the white only, and redo the engine bay black. Pullthe engine and detail, no rebuild as it runs fine. No nuts-and-bolts strip as it looks like the underside will clean up very well.
In cleaning the underside there is white overspray, which makes sense as it is a Wimbledon White car. But it has had a second paint job (more on some of those curiosities in a separate post). Basic tape-and-squirt. In cleaning the underside with a degreaser/cleaner product that will not damage paint got the grime gone and down to overspray/primer. In hitting a few tough spots of grime around the transmission in the tunnel used a more aggressive spray can degreaser, in wiping down the areas noticed a lot of the white speckle was coming off...
So, the question, is it likely that the overspray coming off with only a mild wipe/buff with a rag and degreaser is the second paint job, as its over road grime (parts date the front end repairs to the early/mid 70's), or would the degreaser take off factory overspray? I am thinking the factory would be harder to get off, but am not sure...
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I've found lacquer thinner will wipe off original paint very quickly. Was playing around with original paint on the bottom of a hood and it went straight to primer with 2 wipes. Would guess that the same would apply with an aggressive cleaner. Probably the safest thing to use would be mineral spirits if you just want to clean.
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Would factory overspray get up into the tunnel? Light speckling over most of it...
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here is my car, hasn't been cleaned yet.
(http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy342/tim_morrison82/8R01J/general%20body%20and%20paint/DSC01199_zps3fe358cd.jpg) (http://s806.photobucket.com/user/tim_morrison82/media/8R01J/general%20body%20and%20paint/DSC01199_zps3fe358cd.jpg.html)
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Looks similar to mine... pre-cleaning...
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/dalorzof/Cal%20Special/Repaint/Undercarriage/DSCN0955.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/dalorzof/media/Cal%20Special/Repaint/Undercarriage/DSCN0955.jpg.html)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/dalorzof/Cal%20Special/Repaint/Undercarriage/DSCN0989.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/dalorzof/media/Cal%20Special/Repaint/Undercarriage/DSCN0989.jpg.html)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/dalorzof/Cal%20Special/Repaint/Undercarriage/DSCN0985.jpg) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/dalorzof/media/Cal%20Special/Repaint/Undercarriage/DSCN0985.jpg.html)
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Yes, there could be color over-spray showing as far in as the tunnel. Light color paint on a dark color undercarriage primer would show more than dark exterior color.
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My Cs is white just as yours, with a projected build date of 03 April. The white paint reaches far under the car and also includes a pretty good coat of white overspray even in the tunnel area. Oddly, the primer was a dark chocolate brown, and Jeff has some images of this oddity. I was able to save all of the primer which looks just like new but the white overspray came off in the cleaning process. I did my best to duplicate the overspray and the bottom now looks as it has more white than the usual Mustang we see on the show circuit. As an aside, the white factory paint was also under the engine compartment black on the outside of the inner fenders and extended clear around with a substantial amount on the front area of the core support. Someone went wild with the white paint at the San Jose plant! Just so you know that other CS cars have some of the same characteristics.
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April 29. Primer more typical red oxide.
Thanks very much for the info.
I'll see how I go on the cleaning, if the overspray goes then I'll live with it as the painter can replicate it to some extent when repainting. As a not hugely valuable car want to treat it right, but it will never be a concourse trailered car, but a regular driver.
Murf, do you have any pictures of the pinchweld blackout overspray on yours under the car?
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April 29. Primer more typical red oxide.
Murf, do you have any pictures of the pinchweld blackout overspray on yours under the car?
IF he doesn't or you need more I've got some.
Orange car in the following threads is a Feb car
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=6428.msg36423#msg36423 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=6428.msg36423#msg36423)
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=6404.msg36276#msg36276 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=6404.msg36276#msg36276)
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Thanks Jeff...