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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: Chris on December 04, 2013, 05:22:15 PM

Title: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: Chris on December 04, 2013, 05:22:15 PM: Which clamp is the correct version to use for attaching the a/c hose to the shock tower? There are two types I've seen used, both are shown in the attached pictures.

Also, for the clamp used to hold the suction and discharge hose under the engine compartment brace (picture attached), where can I find one of these? I'm pretty sure they are not reproduced.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: rockhouse66 on December 04, 2013, 07:07:35 PM: I will rush in and say something stupid before the experts arrive, but I think the correct clamp is a rubber dipped style (like your second pic), and a truly correct one is not available as repro IMO. I also think the correct fastener for the cowl brace mounted support loop is a hex head screw, not Phillips head as shown.
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: ChrisV289 on December 04, 2013, 07:29:59 PM: The second one is correct i believe as well. Also the bracket that holds the hoses to the cowl brace is not available anywhere and is held on with a hex screw. Here is a pic of my engine bay:

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/shelbee350/Honey%20Gold%20-%20Mine/IMG_0223.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/shelbee350/media/Honey%20Gold%20-%20Mine/IMG_0223.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: J_Speegle on December 04, 2013, 08:48:17 PM: Quote from: Chris on December 04, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
Also, for the clamp used to hold the suction and discharge hose under the engine compartment brace (picture attached), where can I find one of these? I'm pretty sure they are not reproduced.

Donor car or make one from a pattern if someone has one out of the car for a pattern ;)
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: Chris on December 04, 2013, 09:38:21 PM: Thanks everyone. Is the shock tower clamp reproduced? I don't think I've seen this type from the major suppliers.
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: rodster on December 05, 2013, 12:10:19 AM: More related info here:

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=6753.msg38282#msg38282

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=6954.msg39428#msg39428

Quote from: rockhouse66 on December 04, 2013, 07:07:35 PM
I will rush in and say something stupid before the experts arrive, but I think the correct clamp is a rubber dipped style (like your second pic), and a truly correct one is not available as repro IMO.
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: jwc66k on December 05, 2013, 12:28:07 AM: The clamp for a 65 V8 according to the 65 Electrical assembly manual is p/n 357949-S. It is shown in the Ford Standard and Utility Parts Catalog, January 1965, on page 37. The dimensions are: 21/32W, 1 3/64L, 27/64 Loop, Beveled end, w/mtg hole, rubber coated. Its only Mustang application is 1965. AMK does not carry it.
The mounting screw is: 42119-S8 hex, tapping 8-18X3/8L, flange 11/32, 1/4hex drive. It is the same one used to hold the heater plenum to the heater.
Jim
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: Chris on December 08, 2013, 11:58:56 AM: Thanks. I'll have to scrounge around at used parts places to see if I can pick these two clamps up, neither is repoduced. Classic Auto Air does not have any spares either.
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: carlite65 on December 08, 2013, 01:23:19 PM: my first call would be to these guys. http://www.mustangbarn.com
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: suskeenwiske on December 08, 2013, 02:25:25 PM: I spotted the Shock Tower Clamps in the 2013 NPD Catalog, page 201, part 353473-S. They appear to be the dipped type and NPD claims it to be the 'Correct Style' for 65-66. I don't know enough about the clamp to have an opinion about its correctness but may be worth checking into.

Ray
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: Chris on December 08, 2013, 06:40:17 PM: Right, NPD carries the clamp in the first picture above, the type with the metal band in the center. The consensus was that this type is not the correct version...so I'll have to track the correct one down at a used parts shop.
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: Chris on March 22, 2014, 10:17:11 PM: So NPD carries the shock tower clamp for the Sight Glass Hose. With Jim's input on the bolt to fastner it to the shock tower, I should be set for that one: "The mounting screw is: 42119-S8 hex, tapping 8-18X3/8L, flange 11/32, 1/4hex drive. It is the same one used to hold the heater plenum to the heater".

Now the bracket that surrounds both Suction and Sight Glass Hoses at the cowl brace...I'll need some help with this one. I checked all used parts suppliers and can't find one. If anyone has a spare, I'll be glad to purchase it.

Thanks for the help.
Chris
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: suskeenwiske on March 23, 2014, 01:33:47 AM: I don't have one but was at a Swap Meet recently where I saw one in a box of jumbled hardware; stupid me, forgot to bring cash. It wasn't in the best of shape but good enough that I could duplicate it. Another Swap Meet is coming up next weekend, I'll look for the Vendor and search again. I'll let you know if I find anything.

Ray
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: ChrisV289 on March 27, 2014, 08:31:46 PM: I'll have to see if I can post some measurements of the clamp I have and post them
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: suskeenwiske on March 29, 2014, 08:01:06 PM: ChrisV289,

If you can post something, that would be great. I just got back from the swap meet, found the same vendor but he did not have the bracket.

Thanks

Ray
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: Chris on March 29, 2014, 10:42:57 PM: The Osborn electrical assembly manual (64 1/2 version) shows the part for supporting the two AC hoses as:

C4ZA-19812-A Bracket - A/C Hose Support

Maybe the MPC has the dimensions of this bracket?
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: kb65 on January 14, 2025, 09:57:02 PM: ChrisV
did you ever find the dimensions for this bracket?

I need to make one

thanks ken
Title: Re: Correct clamps for 65 A/C
Post by: ChrisV289 on January 15, 2025, 02:06:27 AM: Sent you an email.