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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1970 Mustang => Topic started by: ClevelandKid on March 18, 2014, 02:55:53 PM

Title: Vacuum Diaphragm Adjustment
Post by: ClevelandKid on March 18, 2014, 02:55:53 PM
Last summer I was playing around with my 70 351C Mach 1. Setting the idle and checking the timing. It runs like a Swiss watch. But I remember reading an article several years ago about adjusting the dual diaphragm vacuum advance so I put a crescent wrench on the snout of the advance and gave it a slight turn and noticed a slight increase in RPMs. I took it out on the street and did a hard launch and about cremated the tires and the car took off like it was in after burner. It was scary fast. I had marked the exact location before the adjustment and returned it to the original position. Can anyone explain what took place ? I did not know that turning the advance one way or the other would have such an effect on timing. I did not turn the distributor at all just the snout of the vacuum diaphragm.
Title: Re: Vacuum Diaphragm Adjustment
Post by: 67gta289 on March 18, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
More importantly, why the heck did you turn it back ;D
Title: Re: Vacuum Diaphragm Adjustment
Post by: ClevelandKid on March 18, 2014, 04:16:44 PM
Because not understanding what was happening mechanically I didn't want to run the risk of damaging something down the line.  :-\
Title: Re: Vacuum Diaphragm Adjustment
Post by: J_Speegle on March 19, 2014, 01:08:47 AM
Just a guess (not a tech) that you adjust total mechanical advance for the distributor. Since the diaphragm is connected directly to the plate the points are mounted to the adjustment would adjust a greater or short arm length

Didn't recall that factory diaphragms were adjustable - thought it was aftermarket ones but what do I know about the subject ;)
Title: Re: Vacuum Diaphragm Adjustment
Post by: ClevelandKid on March 19, 2014, 10:27:19 PM
I forgot to mention I have a Pertronix unit installed. No points. That really stumps me. If the weather here in Upstate NY EVER warms up I'm going to try it again. Ii have a small mark on the vacuum diaphragm and will set it to that mark and then move it a little more to see how much she will take. I'm in a rambunctious mood after the longest winter I think I ever remember.  ;)
Title: Re: Vacuum Diaphragm Adjustment
Post by: 65pon on March 21, 2014, 06:31:26 PM
At full throttle the vac advance doesn't do anything anyway.  It is only active at part throttle.
Title: Re: Vacuum Diaphragm Adjustment
Post by: dave6768 on March 24, 2014, 01:21:59 PM
The only damage you could cause (other than shortening your tire life  ;) ) is if you are pinging at WOT.  If not, you are good to go.

You probably adjusted the timing at idle...this may cause the engine to run a bit warmer and may make it slightly harder to start...but shouldn't cause any "damage."