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Restoring - General discussions that span across many different groups of years and models => Body, Paint & Sealers => Topic started by: J_Speegle on November 01, 2014, 07:24:42 PM
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Working through a short list of needs to complete the site Article on Decoding Dates I find myself in need of some nice clear pictures of the manufacturer's mark from glass rear windows of convertibles (up to 73). It can be found on the lower section (drivers side) of the folding rear glass.
Already have examples from a number of the plastic versions so, at this time, believe those are taken care of.
Thanks to all that have assisted so far and those that will
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'68 Shelby, GT350 convertible, 10D date on buck tag. 25k mile car, 7H date on the rear glass. Seems pretty early for a late car, but factoring in the UAW strike, guess it's possible.
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Thanks Charles - any others? Just so we have a collection with different dates and maybe slightly different format if there was a change
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Thanks Charles - any others? Just so we have a collection with different dates and maybe slightly different format if there was a change
I will try and remember to take a pic of a 69 one for you tomorrow.
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(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh86/JohnR_2008/70%20Mustang%20convertible%200F03R165671/20141026_173159_zpsf78ec7aa.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/JohnR_2008/media/70%20Mustang%20convertible%200F03R165671/20141026_173159_zpsf78ec7aa.jpg.html)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh86/JohnR_2008/70%20Mustang%20convertible%200F03R165671/20141026_173122_zps9d26963c.jpg) (http://s254.photobucket.com/user/JohnR_2008/media/70%20Mustang%20convertible%200F03R165671/20141026_173122_zps9d26963c.jpg.html)
From 0F03R165671
JohnB
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Thanks guys
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Thanks guys
I forgot.
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Removed from a 1969 XR7 convertible. Shouldn't it have a date, if original?
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w115/CougarCJ/IMG_1226-1028_zps95f0f5e6.jpg) (http://s174.photobucket.com/user/CougarCJ/media/IMG_1226-1028_zps95f0f5e6.jpg.html)
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Removed from a 1969 XR7 convertible. Shouldn't it have a date, if original?
Even on replacements. Believe the "date" on your example is possible the M2 suggesting that the rear glass was replaced in 1973 (M2 should be Dec 72) following the pattern we see on the other corning rear glass examples so far
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Even on replacements. Believe the "date" on your example is possible the M2 suggesting that the rear glass was replaced in 1973 (M2 should be Dec 72) following the pattern we see on the other corning rear glass examples so far
It is my understanding that Corning lost the contract to PPG around 1970 model year for the thin convertible top glass.
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This is a low mileage Cougar I looked at with Scott Behncke in August of last year while in Oregon. Everything looked really original in this car....
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z213/azscj/DSCN8108_zps7a5ca7b6.jpg)
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Even on replacements. Believe the "date" on your example is possible the M2 suggesting that the rear glass was replaced in 1973 (M2 should be Dec 72) following the pattern we see on the other corning rear glass examples so far
The M2 I believe refers to the type of glass. I have found several original 68 rear glass that had no date markings. One I know had never been replaced because came from original owner
The one in Marcus's picture is very typical of 68-69
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The one in Marcus's picture is very typical of 68-69
The car in Marcus's picture is from a 1969 R code Cougar XR7 convertible, the owner is a member of this site. The 8B date on the glass pre-dates the car by a wide margin. Maybe Deadstang can comment on the cars build date?
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The car in Marcus's picture is from a 1969 R code Cougar XR7 convertible, the owner is a member of this site. The 8B date on the glass pre-dates the car by a wide margin. Maybe Deadstang can comment on the cars build date?
Then the K1 must/may be the date code on the early one you posted Thanks Tim for the correction
Still suggesting a replacement
Interesting the that M2 was not included on all of the examples - maybe a running change in marking at some point
The R code XR7 one (last one you posted) looks like a good fit as you mentioned with the 8B
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I would say all the examples submitted are typical except the one Scott says came from 69 XR7. (K1) I am thinking that is replacement
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I know 71 corning glass had a different pattern around same time carlite glass went to the block type lettering also in 71 . I remember years ago running into that as I found a 71 ragtop rear glass from a junkyard parted out 71 mustang & glass was same cut as 69-70 but corning markings were a little different layout
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I took a corning glass to dave at ECS last march & he made that script corning with a 69 date code so he has it.
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Was the rear convertible glass always tinted?
Datecode on glass v.s actual car build?
Thanks
John
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Was the rear convertible glass always tinted?
Datecode on glass v.s actual car build?
Thanks
John
I have never seen or heard of rear convertible glass that was tinted.
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I have never seen or heard of rear convertible glass that was tinted.
Thanks. Just need to figure out the datecode on the glass v.s actual car build date ;)
JohnB
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Thanks. Just need to figure out the datecode on the glass v.s actual car build date ;)
For what year and plant?
Don't have allot of rear convertible glass data points but next best thing might be using side glass or windshield dates to get an idea
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For what year and plant?
+1 As a general rule I have observed front and back glass about 1-2 months prior. Seen side glass up to 6 months, usually always before front/back
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0F03R120303.
Actual build 10/17/69
JohnB
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Funny that the Glass is Corning Glass. Corning Glass of course is still around today and has always been located in Corning, New York. They have been making glass products since 1851....including Corningware dishes, etc. Today, They still make Corningware, but that part of the company actually broke off to form another division. That Ipod or Iphone that you are using made by Apple - That Glass screen is made by Corning Glass Inc. Steve Jobs actually approached Corning, Inc. in 2005 to make the Glass screen for the IPhone to his specs, and they (Corning) actually turned him down and told him that it couldn't be done. Jobs persisted, and had more faith in Corning than Corning did, and Jobs would not take "NO" for an answer after he was told "No" by every other manufacturer that he had approached. It took something like 2 years of testing and development to develop the special "Gorilla glass" that we all carry in our Iphones and Ipod Touch-es. Most people have no idea of the story. It's a great part of history.
Bet you didn't know that!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corning_Inc.
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/03/02/apple-confirms-corning-glass/
:o)
Tony K.