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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1964 1/2 - 1965 => Topic started by: DKutz on December 02, 2014, 09:49:59 PM
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So it's too late now, but....
I have a 65 fastback Oct 64 build date. It has the stand blue interior. What color should the headliner be. White? Blue? Or light blue? Whe I ordered the interior and asked and researched and was told light blue. So that's what a did. Now I am not sure that is right. I think it should be white since it's an early 65.
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I researched this when I searched for a replacement headliner for my Dearborn built 65 Fastback with an early September 64 build date. I can't recall my sources (Probably this forum!) but I found that early 65's had a white headliner (Yes, that would include October 64 cars.). I believe the time frame when colored headliners started being used was around December 64. As with many parts, this was a running change that was phased in when existing white headliners were used up so an exact cut over date does not apply. This makes sense with my Fastback. It's loaded with 64 1/2 parts like hood stops with the hole in the middle, one beveled headlight bucket (good example of early 60's quality control), Eaton power steering pump, wipers and bezel, vent knob with the "A" and carpet to name a few things.
UPDATE: I've found that many of the publications regarding this and many other topics have errors. The best advice I get is from the people on this forum. There are many well respected members that are more than willing to share their wealth of knowledge.
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My Oct 64 Fastback has an off white headliner. I have attached a picture. What plant was yours built in?
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/shelbee350/DSC01522.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/shelbee350/media/DSC01522.jpg.html)
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The day night mirror shown in the Oct. '64 built fastback is actually the '66 style with the twist adjuster. The '65 mirror had a toggle, or flipper type switch.
I've noticed that many of these early '65s also had cardboard sun visors.
Dave
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The day night mirror shown in the Oct. '64 built fastback is actually the '66 style with the twist adjuster. The '65 mirror had a toggle, or flipper type switch.
I've noticed that many of these early '65s also had cardboard sun visors.
Dave
San Jose. My rear view mirror has no adjuster.
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The standard mirrors had no need for a day/nite adjuster switch.
San Jose. My rear view mirror has no adjuster.
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My Oct 64 Fastback has an off white headliner. I have attached a picture. What plant was yours built in?
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/shelbee350/DSC01522.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/shelbee350/media/DSC01522.jpg.html)
What is your int color?
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My Oct 64 Fastback has an off white headliner. I have attached a picture. What plant was yours built in?
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/shelbee350/DSC01522.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/shelbee350/media/DSC01522.jpg.html)
The day night mirror shown in the Oct. '64 built fastback is actually the '66 style with the twist adjuster. The '65 mirror had a toggle, or flipper type switch.
I've noticed that many of these early '65s also had cardboard sun visors.
Dave
The day night mirror shown in the picture (Oct 1964) was first used around February 1965. It isn't unique to 1966 model Mustangs.
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I have ivy gold interior (color code 28). The day/nite mirror is an original mirror, whether it is original to the car or was replaced by the original or second owner (prior to 1992) is not known at this time. DKutz my car was also build date in San Jose with a production date of 10/29/64. How close is yours?
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Mine was blue interior with white headliner and thats what I am putting back in it.
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I have ivy gold interior (color code 28). The day/nite mirror is an original mirror, whether it is original to the car or was replaced by the original or second owner (prior to 1992) is not known at this time. DKutz my car was also build date in San Jose with a production date of 10/29/64. How close is yours?
My build date is October 8.
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So after some research I see some people who say they have "off white". But that color is tinted to the interior color, light blue for blue int, light tan/gold for ivy gold interior. So perhaps mine is right, light blue. Unfortunately I let the paint shop pull the glass, so any clue left under the gaskets was lost...
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I wouldnt say it is tinted to match. It is just not a bright white...
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I am amazed that this info is not readily available. I just looked on the tmi website, and they don't list it. Any other suggestions.
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Not the best picture and from a coupe (not sure if that makes any difference from about your time period
Hope it helps in some way
5R07A1301xx - Blue interior
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/2/6-031214202845.jpeg)
Just for comparison
5R09C170902 headliner
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/2/6-031214203757.jpeg)
5R07C2039xx interior with Interior code 22. Digital pictures can be so misleading especially on light colors
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/2/6-031214203222.jpeg)
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so far all I see is white. No one else has anything else??
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My 66 Fastback Pony interior (Oct, San Jose) code 62, has the off-white headliner; my 66 Hardtop standard interior (Oct, San Jose) code 26, is black; my 65 Fastback standard interior (Mar, San Jose) code 26 is black; my 66 Fastback standard interior (Mar, San Jose) code 25 was red (lives in Australia now). All visor colors match the headliner color.
Jim
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My 66 Fastback Pony interior (Oct, San Jose) code 62, has the off-white headliner; my 66 Hardtop standard interior (Oct, San Jose) code 26, is black; my 65 Fastback standard interior (Mar, San Jose) code 26 is black; my 66 Fastback standard interior (Mar, San Jose) code 25 was red (lives in Australia now). All visor colors match the headliner color.
Jim
thanks but wouldn't that depend on the interior color as well? A black int erior would get a black headliner regardless of year or plant?
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thanks but wouldn't that depend on the interior color as well? A black int erior would get a black headliner regardless of year or plant?
No. On the earlier cars, I've seen plenty of early '65s with a white headliner, regardless of the color of the rest of the interior. Since it was a running change when the color-keyed headliners were introduced, there's no absolute cutoff date. I assume plants used up the white headliners they had on hand, and then started using colored headliners.
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thanks but wouldn't that depend on the interior color as well? A black int erior would get a black headliner regardless of year or plant?
+1 plus those examples are a ways from when your car was built
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+1 plus those examples are a ways from when your car was built
That is true, and more or less confirmed from the 65 and 66 Ford Mustang Illustrated Facts Book from California Mustang which I believe is a reprint from Ford marketing documents. The 65 books pg 7 says ". . sun visors and the headlining in the hardtop are of white textured vinyl which emphasizes the spaciousness of the interior". (Definitely marketing talk.) The 2+2 Fastback section, which has a section on the GT, does not mention headliners but does list the rear fiberglass panes as color keyed.
You need input from forum members of early 65 Mustangs (hint).
Jim