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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1966 Mustang => Topic started by: Shasmu on December 07, 2014, 03:09:26 PM

Title: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: Shasmu on December 07, 2014, 03:09:26 PM
 I noticed these castings are different on these 2 proportioning valves. Is one type early, and one type later production, and are the internals identical?
The bottom example is known to be removed from a low mileage '66 k-code coupe and appears to have been painted grey originally.
 The origin of the upper valve is unknown, but is from a Mustang.
The seal kit available from Drake doesn't have the correct size seals for the upper valve. .http://www.drakeautomotivegroup.com/Store/Product/C5ZZ-2B091-K.aspx?wid=141

Not sure if the seal kit will fit the '66 prop. valve till I get it taken apart.

 
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: sgl66 on December 07, 2014, 04:02:50 PM
Mine from 66 Metuchen car. Just rebuilt, was black (and rust), now just black.

I believe the top valve might be from a Corvette, they were also using KH prop valves. Never seen them side by side but thought I read somewhere that the vet didn't have a machined end near the cap with the date stamp. The vet also didn't have a date stamp and one of the seals inside wasn't the same either.




Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: Shasmu on December 07, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
Thanks for the info. The '66 is from a San Jose car.
I see your valve has a brass lock nut.
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: sgl66 on December 07, 2014, 04:25:35 PM
Here's the thread about corvettes

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c1-and-c2-corvettes/1673636-j-56-kelsey-hayes-proportioning-valve.html

The nut on mine is plated steel. Camera in phone makes it look like brass.

What's the build date of the K it came from?
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: Texas Swede on December 07, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
There are two different types of valves for Mustangs, A and B. The size of one of the
O-rings is different so I buy both types from NPD and use the one fitting on the
valve I am working on.
Texas Swede
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: Shasmu on December 08, 2014, 12:35:32 AM
Thanks Swede!

 Dave
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: 1966GTFB on December 08, 2014, 11:54:16 AM
I am rebuilding mine now as we speak. There is a really good site that shows the differences between the early and late valve.

Check it out http://www.stangerssite.com/brakevalve.html

Here is a picture of the insides of mine.



Good Luck.

Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: Brian Conway on December 08, 2014, 06:27:37 PM
     Interesting reading between the Corvette Forum an the Stangerssite.  I have two of these valves one is, I presume, OE to the car and the other rescued from a swap meet.  Both have the ' A '  piston with the purple outer sleeve, both have the machined/grooved end and both have date stamps on the removable butt plate.  One date stamp is 327 4 and the other 329 4.  Brian 
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: sgl66 on June 14, 2015, 10:54:59 PM
Not mine, saw this service replacement on ebay tonight. Top edge appears flat compared to originals I've seen. Date code looks like it starts with a 7?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/65-66-Shelby-Mustang-Kelsey-Hayes-Disc-Brake-Proportioning-valve-NOS-w-box-/281722002554?hash=item4197f09c7a&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: J_Speegle on June 14, 2015, 11:42:34 PM
Not mine, saw this service replacement on ebay tonight. Top edge appears flat compared to originals I've seen. Date code looks like it starts with a 7?

Looks like when they restored the valve they remachined the top surface and cut off enough to make the top surface an oval - without the two (for lack of a better term) V's we often see. Can't seem to make out the PAT on the side facing the camera. Might just be the glare off what appears to be a fresh paint job
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: sgl66 on June 15, 2015, 12:39:29 AM
Guess I should learn to read not just look at pictures :o

"The number on the end cap is 1402"

Also didn't read that it was sleeved, rebuilt, painted and as you point out, probably machined. A stretch for NOS
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: rusty nuts on January 11, 2016, 04:14:30 AM
Can anyone confirm whether the paint daub in the pic attached is factory correct?
More interested in San Jose examples.
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: J_Speegle on January 11, 2016, 05:06:51 AM
Can anyone confirm whether the paint daub in the pic attached is factory correct?
More interested in San Jose examples.

What year car do you have?

IMHO I wouldn't use that mark at this time or suggest it on a 65 or 66 Mustang
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: CharlesTurner on January 11, 2016, 11:42:56 AM
What year car do you have?

IMHO I would use a mark like that or suggest it on a 65 or 66 Mustang

Would or wouldn't?  ;)
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: J_Speegle on January 11, 2016, 01:18:15 PM
Would or wouldn't?  ;)

Fixed/corrected. Answering too late a night
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: rockhouse66 on January 11, 2016, 07:30:32 PM
There was no trace of a yellow mark like that on the original prop valve on my 9/65 SJ car.
Title: Re: Disc Proportioning Valve
Post by: rusty nuts on January 11, 2016, 09:02:20 PM
IMHO I wouldn't use that mark at this time or suggest it on a 65 or 66 Mustang
There was no trace of a yellow mark like that on the original prop valve on my 9/65 SJ car.
Thanks for confirming