Topic: 66 NJ Buck Tag Retaining Screw Survey

[Hipo giddyup]

 Curious to hear what others will say on this but I'm guessing the screw for the buck tag would be phosphate and oil and maybe the tag itself was bare metal? My 67' Metuchen coupe and my buddies Dec'66 Metuchen coupe both have the buck tags on the driver's side next to the hinge mount.. neat to hear others have theirs mounted on the passenger side.

[AU SNK]

Curious to hear what others will say on this but I'm guessing the screw for the buck tag would be phosphate and oil and maybe the tag itself was bare metal? My 67' Metuchen coupe and my buddies Dec'66 Metuchen coupe both have the buck tags on the driver's side next to the hinge mount.. neat to hear others have theirs mounted on the passenger side.

I am curious about this as well, unfortunately on my April 66 survivor the engine bay was "touched up" at some point so no idea if it should be black or not. Also I have a different type screw attaching mine than what is on rrenz's example.

[JKWilson]

Oct. '65 Metuchen car ......ALSO! My buck tag was on the passenger side next to the shock tower. The other difference with mine was the attaching screw. Mine used the "other" style common which was a round pan head (I believe that's the correct description). Since the buck tag was installed prior to painting the engine compartment (confirmed by the common lack of paint found underneath the tag), the tag and attaching screw were painted over in black. If anyone knows something different than this I'd be happy to be corrected. In the image of your buck tag it appears that you can actually see evidence of the unpainted area under the tag.

While mine may have had other stamps, the only one I've located so far was a "Paint OK Conger" in yellow on top of the passenger side inner fender above the solenoid. I have also seen a "Paint OK Martz" on a friend's Metuchen car (unfortunately I don't have the build date). It was stamped in white and was located under the hood on the center of the support structure.


Location updated!

[AU SNK]

JKWilson,

mine also has the "round pan head" screw and it on the drivers side as well.

[CharlesTurner]

Buck tags were installed (with the screw) before the engine bay was painted, so would be black.

[AU SNK]

Buck tags were installed (with the screw) before the engine bay was painted, so would be black.

Charles,

Should the screw head be rounded or flat?

[JKWilson]

I am sure Charles is better informed to tell you the "when", both are correct but during different production times.

[JKWilson]

One thing I thought of just after my reply (after all of this time it JUST occurred to me), is the question of whether there is any correlation to the usage being tied to the same usage period for the rear valance screws. Both of the same screws were used there also but again, during different production time frames (e.g. if a flat screw was used on the buck tag were those same cars getting flat screws as attaching hardware for the rear valance, and the same for the pan head screws?!).

[Building 3]

Buck Tag: here you can see the black Buck tag with a punch out and the unpainted metal beneath it. So yes, as was posted. The tag and the screw had to be on the body before paint.

[Building 3]

Here is the screw. Passenger side Buck tag.

[Hipo giddyup]

So then at what point was the buck tag added?? Would it have been after the first coat of red oxide primer?? Just before the black-out of the firewall?? My 67' never had severe rust under this area so i'm guessing it wasn't left bare metal.   

[CharlesTurner]

Buck Tag: here you can see the black Buck tag with a punch out and the unpainted metal beneath it. So yes, as was posted. The tag and the screw had to be on the body before paint.

That's a cool detail that is not seen very often on a restored car...

As far as the screw type, I have seen the panhead and flat top larger screw.  I don't have any info to share on when either were used. 

[CharlesTurner]

So then at what point was the buck tag added?? Would it have been after the first coat of red oxide primer?? Just before the black-out of the firewall?? My 67' never had severe rust under this area so i'm guessing it wasn't left bare metal.   

My best guess is right after the uni-body was welded up.  The punch-outs would have been done by inspectors, probably making sure holes and modifications per the options called out on the bucktag were complete.

[Hipo giddyup]

Very interesting... I better get out the paint stripper and get to work under my body buck tag.

Just kidding. But good info!   Thanks Charles

[AU SNK]

Noticed mine has 3 punch punch holes, 1 on the left bottom and 2 on the right side, there is bare metal under it as well.