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Offline Corey Bowcutt

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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2025, 06:18:48 PM »
Here's a picture of four types I "acquired" many years back from a local car "dismantler" who specialized in Mustangs. As you can see, there are many types. The one on the left I do not believe is a Mustang bracket, but who knows. The next on it the longer version used in early 1964 Mustangs. The next two were the type used in 65 and on Mustangs. Note the one on the right is just a bit shorter than the one next to it. As to finish, they appear to have been "plated" or at least treated. Most of the one I got were rusty, pitted and had some type of corrosion that looked like they had salt water crystal specs - my interpretation.
The "1965 Mustang Body Assembly Manual" (the infamous MPC) - AM0001, page 36, lists these brackets as C4ZB-6513190, as does the 65 Body (AM0006 pg43) and 66 Body (AM0011 pg39). They are not shown in 1967 (and up, I assume - not in the 68 Body or Interior). I tried to find them in the 75 edition of "Ford Car Parts" but could not find them. It is quite possible that Ford did NOT service this part.
Jim

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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2025, 06:34:34 PM »
Here's a picture of four types I "acquired" many years back from a local car "dismantler" who specialized in Mustangs. As you can see, there are many types. The one on the left I do not believe is a Mustang bracket, but who knows. The next on it the longer version used in early 1964 Mustangs. The next two were the type used in 65 and on Mustangs. Note the one on the right is just a bit shorter than the one next to it. As to finish, they appear to have been "plated" or at least treated. Most of the one I got were rusty, pitted and had some type of corrosion that looked like they had salt water crystal specs - my interpretation.
The "1965 Mustang Body Assembly Manual" (the infamous MPC) - AM0001, page 36, lists these brackets as C4ZB-6513190, as does the 65 Body (AM0006 pg43) and 66 Body (AM0011 pg39). They are not shown in 1967 (and up, I assume - not in the 68 Body or Interior). I tried to find them in the 75 edition of "Ford Car Parts" but could not find them. It is quite possible that Ford did NOT service this part.
Jim
The reason why you don't see them listed separately 67 and 68 is because they stopped using them as a separate piece. Later in 67 production Ford started incorporating them onto the seat sliders themselves and they were stacked in place . That was when they also went from the black chromate finish on the separate ones to the zinc phosphate finish for the ones made onto the slider.
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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2025, 11:05:58 PM »
I tried to find them in the 75 edition of "Ford Car Parts" but could not find them. It is quite possible that Ford did NOT service this part.
Jim

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From the 60-68 T&I book dated 1969:
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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2025, 12:31:59 AM »
Corey:  If you have the non-adjusting passenger seat, the plates weren't used on those.  There are zinc plated 'cups' used at the mounting point for the studs.  I'd have to dig out a pic if you need one.
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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2025, 10:22:01 AM »
Corey:  If you have the non-adjusting passenger seat, the plates weren't used on those.  There are zinc plated 'cups' used at the mounting point for the studs.  I'd have to dig out a pic if you need one.
Charles, I would love a picture of that if you can find it.
Thank you, Corey

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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2025, 04:46:49 PM »
Jim,
From the 60-68 T&I book dated 1969:
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Thanks Scott. For a while I could not figure out what the "T&I book" was (it's "Text and Illustration"). It's another "buzz word" abbreviation for the "infamous MPC" which is called by Ford - "Ford Car Parts" (see attached with the official Ford document title at the top of the page). I got pressed for time (OK, lazy) and after looking up the Ford base number in the 75 edition and not finding it there, didn't bother with the 68. Again, the seat bracket not being listed in the 75 edition is probably an indication that Ford did not service that part sometime after 1968.
Jim
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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2025, 08:47:24 PM »
Charles, I would love a picture of that if you can find it.
Thank you, Corey
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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2025, 07:54:04 AM »
Thank you Charles.  I just flipped my seat over and that is exactly what mine looks like.

Thanks everyone for your help.  I believe this has answered my question perfectly.

Corey

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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2025, 10:32:53 AM »
Thank you Charles.  I just flipped my seat over and that is exactly what mine looks like.

Thanks everyone for your help.  I believe this has answered my question perfectly.



Excellent.  Note the spacer cups were originally zinc plated.
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Re: Front seat brackets at rear studs
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2025, 03:40:26 PM »
Interesting in that a similar cup was used on 69 convertible seat tracks before being discontinued .
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