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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1967 Mustang => Topic started by: Ralf on February 11, 2016, 09:50:40 AM
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Hi, I'm looking to replace my felt trunk mat 1967 CV.
Have searched......original was Burtex plaid with stitched corners.
Believe its really hard to find NOS or really good condition part.
Nevertheless, I found a "similar" trunk mat , see picture.
Plaid with Burtex, but no stitches.
(http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/c7zz6545456bikav98z75c.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
Seems to be a "compromize" unless smb has this as NOS part to sell :-)
However, I'm a bit struggeling with the picture......is it really plaid structured or something else? Looks like more a "felt, or "cotton"" on A-surface.
Could it be that only B-Surface is shown?
Or does it looks like the spare tire cover in real, as I'm expecting talking about plaid.
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/sparetirecoveuk5c936vfg.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
Thanks for your feedback.
Ralf (GER)
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Hi, I'm looking to replace my felt trunk mat 1967 CV.
Have searched......original was Burtex plaid with stitched corners.
Believe its really hard to find NOS or really good condition part.
Nevertheless, I found a "similar" trunk mat , see picture.
Plaid with Burtex, but no stitches.
Seems to be a "compromise" unless smb has this as NOS part to sell :-)
The shops have had difficultly finding a supplier that can provide one already stitched (we've asked a number of times) as it seems that the workers refuse to do the work due to the off gassing of the product after it is made. Just what has been communicated to use
Its only a compromise if you just want something you can pop out of the box than install in the car. Many owners and shops add the corner stitching to produce a reproduction much closer to the original. Done it a number of times not fun but allot more fun than allot of other tasks and its clean work ;)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-110216164057.jpeg)
A couple of shots showing the backing/jute. Originals can take on a brown or goldish tone, possibly due to contact with other materials.
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-110216164928-52001367.jpeg)
Three examples side by side showing some different jut backing from NOS and original
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-110216164927-51982321.jpeg)
Couple of pictures of originals here
http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=11910.msg72029#msg72029 (http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=11910.msg72029#msg72029)
However, I'm a bit struggling with the picture......is it really plaid structured or something else? Looks like more a "felt, or "cotton"" on A-surface.
Could it be that only B-Surface is shown?
Or does it looks like the spare tire cover in real, as I'm expecting talking about plaid.
Tire covers are not something that was originally used on any of these vehicles and the material typically used on those is a felt backed vinyl - nothing like the material used for the original trunk mats
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Jeff,
Is the picture with the corner stitching an original Ford, or the Burtex material that ACC uses to make their mat? I have been debating if I wanted to purchase the ACC Burtex mat. Did you have someone stitch the mat to make it look correct?
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Jeff,
Is the picture with the corner stitching an original Ford, or the Burtex material that ACC uses to make their mat?
Not sure who made that specific mat - shop purchased it for a Dec 67 GT500 project I was shepherding from NPD I believe
I have been debating if I wanted to purchase the ACC Burtex mat. Did you have someone stitch the mat to make it look correct?
Like most projects I did that myself using a pattern I made after measuring an original. Guess I could put together an article of how I did it. Took pictures of the process, as I often do, so that I could sometime in the future.
Comparison between an original and a reproduced stitch
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-110216211233.jpeg)
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I know that ACC came to a friends shop R+A Motorsports to look at samples of the stitching and original mats that I provided samples of for the purpose of them making up a higher quality Burtex like mat. I did it in the hope that a better alternative will be available . They sent back two sample mats and they looked great.You might email them and see if they are available now. If you can't get anyone at ACC that knows what you are talking you may want to email R+A Motorsports and see if they can order one for you.worst case scenario you can always sew it yourself . Most originals look like a 10 year old sewed it.
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I'm about to buy this ACC burtex trunk mat plaid CV. But don't know the best source.
- CJ is offering ACC trunk mat, cheap price
- Kentucky Mustang offers also ACC, medium price
- ACC itself, but on a higher price level.
- Scott Drake, but not clear to me which source? Higher price. ACC? Does anybody know their source /can confirm that this is an ACC part as well.?
May be I find a german source to stitch it. Gonna ask our Kindergarden ;D
Any others?
Nevertheless, it also matters, at least to me, the corresponding shipping cost to Germany I need to evaluate
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ACC sells one that is already stitched that is not too bad. NPD may handle them.
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Great to hear that someone is finally having these presewn - not that it was that bad of a job. Now, hopefully, they don't come trimmed around the rear bumper support brackets ::)
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Great to hear that someone is finally having these presewn - not that it was that bad of a job. Now, hopefully, they don't come trimmed around the rear bumper support brackets ::)
Something we pointed out but who knows ::) . The fastback mat I ended up with for the use of my mat (already sold it) was right on the money .Wether that accuracy continues remains to be seen.
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Great to hear that someone is finally having these presewn - not that it was that bad of a job. Now, hopefully, they don't come trimmed around the rear bumper support brackets ::)
They are not cut for the bumper support brackets but do come with the extra to cover them if you choose to do it that way.
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They are not cut for the bumper support brackets but do come with the extra to cover them if you choose to do it that way.
Have seen them in reproduction both ways - the reason for asking - thanks
Find those little pads sometimes come in helpful to pad a jack stand for short periods in a pinch :)
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Okay, so we're referring to the ACC Burtex reproduction here, or another?
-Keith
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Okay, so we're referring to the ACC Burtex reproduction here, or another?
-Keith
ACC mat.
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Thanks, Bob. I'll order one.
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Thanks, Bob. I'll order one.
Ordered as well.....Jesus....starting $139>> ending up incl. shipment, fees, taxes..... € 260. :-X
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This is a expensive hobby here I can not imagine being over seas.
Marty
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Did you request complementary Vaseline? 8) Shipping just isn't weight, but dimensional weight these days. Fed Ex kills me sending things to a friend of mine who is serving in Baumholder, Germany, and the spouse is a flight attendant for an airline and we pay about 30% of retail. I know your pain!
-Keith
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Almost everything what I gonna order in the States is double the cost offered by vendor (unless I order a bulk of pieces at least to "save" some shipping cost). FX rate doesn't help neither anymore. Almost 1:1 using PayPal (1,05).
However, looking forward to receive a nice piece of trunk mat, hopefully. Will see....
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Same here, Belgium isn't that far from Germany ;)
We all know it's an expansive hobby, but when we're able to drive our car, we forgot about all the troubles and money :)
Jeroen
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I'm looking for a picture showing the original burtex mat completly in the trunk w/o spare tire (CV 67).
Would like to see the geometry and dimensional fitting.
Here are some, but not complete......http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=2537.msg13368#msg13368
Does anyone know, how many parts on the Burtex Mat from NPD are beeing delivered? 1, or 3 (1 big and 2 small pieces?)
Picture available?
Thx
Ralf
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drop a line to the npd ford product manager scott halseth. shalseth@npdlink.com he should be able to fully answer your questions.
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Ralf,
The correct answer to your question is there is only one piece to the 67 trunk mat. And the correct trunk mat end on top of the gas tank and does not up and on top of the trunk drop out. Up to this email discussion, there have not been any correct 67 trunk mats...not even close!
I have a few Metuchen original mats that are not good enough for show but are good enough to make correct templates.
Regards,
Pete Morgan
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Sorry no single shot of specifically what your looking for
As Pete wrote - one piece originally
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-140316200245-53842019.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/5/6-140316200243-5381161.jpeg)
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Just to show you what I got (NPD), stitched.
Not sure if it is correct in shape and also color (seems a bit yellow, not grey)?
My "old" one is laying underneath.
Hope you can open the files...
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/trunkmat67qmvona5pjx_thumb.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/view/trunkmat67qmvona5pjx.png)
(http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/thumbnail/trunkmat672at5ew3gc2n_thumb.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/view/trunkmat672at5ew3gc2n.png)
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Pictures...just in case of....
EDIT:
Answer from Scott:
The trunk mat that was in your car is the cheap replacement mat with a white felt backing. Not anywhere close to original. The repro mat you just got is the closest to OE that is currently available.
Regards,
Scott
(No reflection on colour and amount of parts, but here seems to be only 1 as already posted)
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Here's an oddity -- the pattern anyway.
I found this in the back of the Boss (see sig).
It appears to be for a 67 fastback as it fits the 67 Shelby pretty well.
It's heavy (not a cheapy). It's dated 1975. And it has stitching.
My best guess so far is that it's a service replacement and whoever created it didn't pay attention to the correct pattern.
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My best guess so far is that it's a service replacement and whoever created it didn't pay attention to the correct pattern.
I'm betting its an aftermarket replacement. Places like Sears, JC Whitney and others sold replacement trunk mats back in the day. In some cases the material is the same as what was used originally other times its not