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1st Generation 1964 1/2 - 1973 - Questions & general discussions that apply to a specific year => 1966 Mustang => Topic started by: Hipo giddyup on December 02, 2018, 09:43:42 PM
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I have two trunk jacking instruction decals on hand but I am not sure which is correct for my build. The car in question is a early Dec. 1965 Metuchen build. One of my decal's parts number starts with C5Z the other starts with C6Z. Can anyone tell me which is correct?
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Can you see a difference in the decals?
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It looks like only the part number is different. One repro is very old, stained/aged look. I'll post pics tonight for reference.
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Charles, here is a picture of the two jacking instruction decals that I have. The one on the bottom is the C6Z that is a little aged looking and is a slightly larger decal than the C5Z example above it. Not sure which one of these would be correct for my December 65’ Metuchen built car?
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Oldest example I could find of the C6ZB version (the designs are different) is 6T198xxx
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Thanks Charles. My car is 6T164xxx so I guess I should go with the C5Z decal?? What would your opinion be on this?
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Thanks Charles. My car is 6T164xxx so I guess I should go with the C5Z decal?? What would your opinion be on this?
I couldn't say for sure at this point, would hold off until more examples can be found.
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Charles, here is a picture of the two jacking instruction decals that I have. The one on the bottom is the C6Z that is a little aged looking and is a slightly larger decal than the C5Z example above it. Not sure which one of these would be correct for my December 65’ Metuchen built car?
Thanks for posting a side by side comparison of a couple of reproductions.
Did find another version also but don't believe it applies, for the moment, to the discussion here. Going to add it to the possible running 65 changes
Might just be that the C5 reproduction was drawn incorrectly and different from originals. Possibly a carry over from the early reproduction days and the company just borrowed the art work from the C6 version to save time since close was better than nothing with some of the reproducers. Asked one of the only ones making stuff back then one day, why they sold things that were not original or incorrect. His response was "Because people bought them." :( Guy was a really, really nice guy and friend but the business side of him apparently had a different standard
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Thanks Charles. My car is 6T164xxx so I guess I should go with the C5Z decal?? What would your opinion be on this?
Looked through my pictures and came up with one example that may help.
Difficult to read the VIN but it appears that it might be in your cars general time period and had the C6 version of the sticker attached to the trunk lid
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-041218183616.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-041218183553.jpeg)
Do have another from 6T1488xx but its just about impossible to make out but may also be a C6. Depends on if the details are lines, shadows or wrinkles
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-041218183724.jpeg)
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/11/6-041218183641.jpeg)
Hope this helps
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I still have original for 6T127xxx (Oct 65) and will check when back in town later this week. PM me if I forget and don’t get back here by the weekend
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Thanks to all for your help!!
I'll be sure to PM if you forget. ;)
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Good news & bad news. It’s a C6 but the rest of the part # is different from repos shown. Also note the word END above FILLER which is on the left in the repop versions.
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Thanks Sglbbs. Yep, the END over FILLER is a dead give away of a REAL Ford decal.
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sglbbs, so with your car being an October build, mine being an early December build, (which BTW just had a birthday yesterday ;D ), I'm guessing I should go with the C6 style as your decal at least shows the "top view" of the tire mounted where the C5 does not. That is a good piece of info for me. Thank you.
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sglbbs, so with your car being an October build, mine being an early December build, (which BTW just had a birthday yesterday ;D ), I'm guessing I should go with the C6 style as your decal at least shows the "top view" of the tire mounted where the C5 does not. That is a good piece of info for me. Thank you.
Looks like the 17093-B is when they added the top view. For what it’s worth, that C6 repo has been around for at least 30 years. Surprised nobody has scanned an original and made a better version yet
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Looks like the 17093-B is when they added the top view. For what it’s worth, that C6 repo has been around for at least 30 years. Surprised nobody has scanned an original and made a better version yet
Believe its the C6 change also (whole part number) when the change to the additional illustration was added. Not aware that a -A was every printed and installed at nay plant yet. At least have not seen evidence at this point.
Unfortunately just scanning an original doesn't make for a good clear reproduction either. And all those little details that get lost or improved during the process give us what we have. Would be worth the effort since so many cars used them. Would be nice to see what ECS's current offering is
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Saw this from a build thread by VA Mustang. May want to contact them to see if this is a repo 17093-C http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2018/11/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html?m=1
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Saw this from a build thread by VA Mustang. May want to contact them to see if this is a repo 17093-C http://blog.virginiaclassicmustang.com/2018/11/just-details1966-shelby-mustang-gt350.html?m=1
Very odd looking decal (not easy to make out the part number for sure) as it appears to be a C4 decal with the later drawing
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Very odd looking decal (not easy to make out the part number for sure) as it appears to be a C4 decal with the later drawing
C6ZB-17093-C engineering number on this decal.
What is a "C4 decal"?
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There are two manufacturers that I am aware of that make '66 Jacking Instruction Decals.
They both currently use the C6ZB-17093-C number.
One is cheaper and does not match the original exactly. It measures 7 1/16 inch x 5 3/8 inch.
http://www.virginiaclassicmustang.com/66-JACK-INSTRUCTION-DECAL-P712.aspx
The other (ECS) looks just like the original "-C" decal. It measures 7 3/8 inch x 5 7/8 inch.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/gb5-mqjq4Zam9gOAOTShts1Wif3mooY-XfaC4jJwqBOFFIqwWGRU4kokBEed0O59xTzr1TSxXQ7CzyClvrPDdc-x7WnYxzL8dxKWkSf66RZzROZGJIk_noRUSxPTY-ezEuVF_1c5mkgQ-ZAjs8iV7F3NmWYhQ99x8Ep4aJKyMHy0lWYIVuBxLmo5KRX9DXxw2OBzu2kYAwlEJbUUm-mH7N3Z4aph0ebqCzJLFC76GNa0NX9Qq4uYz3EvpjZLgKOz3QKOx0SyGcGdrsAvcjNjWO3acKMpsJTwER171d2eAOGf5948dJtYPVDF7H590QpnzPLYoKo_TBxc41OkS9ZVuyevbppS0tPuZMasxB9uJkb2W4iUXgG6OgyjF1dS8Vjd6_fAWotZj3IO8kCz5VDD_sTWM9TuMkzr_v6TF1ff-TLraRut8RmjaQ5TdCVbh-1wr2BRVxT6FfW62-DQGQO_2qSqkQtSap7WIMwYsjTStPWk66fRjlbUKV32tHcXEg125e8orWTqQ5MUbxjBea7bab-j1OdaEdFKSMDCQ5H9LU-TqPm9qpm-ujMihefYTnX_PvsadJLt7hq2k6ilRWVDPXu_ou_ti28-FG0GwS6Md6PHIKEUV7VPqOi5TjUrIuQoMuKLrcpXjc4bf0Dpt-t0XutVDw=s600-no)
(http://www.virginiaclassicmustang.com/66-Jack-Instruction-Decal-Concours-Quality-P482540.aspx)
http://www.virginiaclassicmustang.com/66-Jack-Instruction-Decal-Concours-Quality-P482540.aspx
The one in the picture above on 6S933 is the later decal listed here.
Here are some pictures of an original decal on 6S1732 (late March '66 San Jose):
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/NV63y1Xd9zHEhZJx1Vw89QCXRmgXLqQTl7S_A4AOD2bxAHeIwuHCxSmlLFDS9o0JpNVYq0qfNNoCSfZAUA3TQaaz7uSOO47cJPOt6xQvDF2JNNEwEC270ttU5zIeHZalNoyalXkWMQMOA2VkbSygjAd1qpF14qkmrDr-UAAodvmzV-M4eZO-fvwusULuRAdzaSt3353Z4BaJc0f4W6sqJHhWt86I8H7GQqC0lJXRuMjb44uT4jiKjRsSG9EdxFS8_lQg9ast5gFub2-8XEvv3ontFOQ2fCq7D_pm4qyoY-Ywbae3fbbh3F7hCmWh3BljANYSByOe9q4hV4-idVL3ffw3rTjQCESdxzpbW7Gd7AZPgjMm7hVpNoKfjZSmwiZcXET6wqN-5aqRorhc8dZJT5fUKaqvfuKhtjCHWcH6Tw53V9w69bPhZDPaaPiDymxwPEV-xFAlu0U8aKCetKJczdBH9VHDVbRu2VUBKvkZIz417B28OXLwQY1gT1LSfN3mGd88OxyOSrWHEmig6NhxDGeRR0yRYzCim5tXntk9zBR_XmSYKeUNvA9prb3JUZQu5ojJAgP849C-i0tK99h_VVL9J6PGCjpMdp4qclBPIznsHVK_zgN0RLAgAqclrrI0o88ysspzYpN76yuHHOq1t85tRA=w600-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M4HLVF9FYxjb2SM8aBifv3200SicR2GNlRgHymT6fUS0bu8eLI8Zon2UDi5hRW_6ZlFgPJIErMAU_f4hTO7zjTS9TScjwaeT3c3vPWVnokgnILtek2NT8_rOfN6bDKSHaeE4tsukLpeZ2z1iKkotdSKwORYD4GlEvi96FVS80f-J_ODuk70NkaO7_ehIJn8Ap5422EjINcH841agdTvi8HqxiuRIeNFzlJLSM_YbxkBiHAeOKnrxSneiXorCpdAPSj244yB0DoLyiTZH1z9OyI13MxO0TE-eDgxC5r1y11tro2X3pl9rF-uzHlg9zssQ6CgNovlJazCw3Gmp_Y5IeInwW1HRP7qzuKWlDaimfV_I1hQtn9O4XFTLcNJpqlcucm9vCzylQYsxK4tPOnFpnTgAf9cbsWtta2OZb7OXLh3EHDnSRInbOceGJYqSEGmRawxE3z_qbB39WGphZv1MW6BnlZWEPl2lNbo6AI0xl6ZLWlj1BTznaNufO1-82SmghnGkS4gP3VAKMkeYeDpPWbAolXIfX6_PPyoXn4geaCVRcQmVF69oiIsFjrqNR5n4Lmvrdve-HR3J4qnS8lJnNe2ca6ORrR5rwOtnfV6TFc2fdB718QfvPz6X1eJBKQj1SdnpqvqBSog2bhUH-5vWat46ww=w600-no)
Thanks for posting the picture of the C6ZB-B decal. Does anyone have a clear picture of an original C6ZB-A decal? I would be interested in seeing if we could make some.
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Thanks Brant, I guess up next is when were -A, -B and -C used. Wish I had more of the -B for reference but I’m sure more will surface