Topic: Autolite Spark plug decal placement - June 66 T code

[Josep]

Hi guys.!

Finally (after several months of waiting.!) I have received my Front and Autolite Spark Plug stickers to place in my air cleaner. I wanted to make sure I put the Autolite sticker correctly, so please, where should I place it..? At the back of the lid, just opposite to the 200cid sticker..? It's the rectangular shape sticker.
Pony is 1966 June 11th San Jose build.


Thanks.

[DKutz]

I don't believe you are supposed to use the front sticker, but could be wrong...

[J_Speegle]

Can't find any examples in my files of a 66 6 cylinder with either decal on the air cleaner

[Skyway65]

If the '66 air cleaner is the same as the '65 the word "front" is embossed right into the metal, negating the need for a decal.  Neither of my two original 6 cyl '65's had the front sticker--may be different for '66?

Keep in mind the photo shows the correct decals for a January '65 Dearborn car--yours may be different.

[mjd 65]

I can't vouch for the authenticity, but there is a picture in Colin Date's "Mustang 1964-1/2 - 1966" book of a 170 air cleaner with the "front" decal and the Autolite decal on the snout. I don't know if this would apply to a 66, but it's one possibility.

[J_Speegle]

I can't vouch for the authenticity, but there is a picture in Colin Date's "Mustang 1964-1/2 - 1966" book of a 170 air cleaner with the "front" decal and the Autolite decal on the snout. I don't know if this would apply to a 66, but it's one possibility.

Somewhat restored car with wire covers and other non- original parts. Appears to have San Jose characteristics (radiator for one). IMHO don't think its the smoking gun:) If for not other reason its a different year.


Guess we needed to ask Josep if the car was a Sprint originally?  Seem to have a fair number of unrestored T code sprints from that year with only one decal on those air cleaners

[Josep]

Thanks all for answers.
No Jeff, I don't think my pony was a Sprint originally, just a standard San Jose T code car.

Josep

[jstefanick]

Is the final word on 1966- 6 Cylinder NON Sprint cars with snorkel air cleaner (and I will throw in I have the San Jose version of the air cleaner which adds an additional connector on the air cleaner for a hose that attaches to the Anti Backfire valve of the Thermactor system), is the final word that I really should have NO stickers at all on it?

I am looking to repaint it anyway and want it to be correct air cleaner wise with what I would have seen day one in the showroom.

[J_Speegle]

Is the final word on 1966- 6 Cylinder NON Sprint cars with snorkel air cleaner (and I will throw in I have the San Jose version of the air cleaner which adds an additional connector on the air cleaner for a hose that attaches to the Anti Backfire valve of the Thermactor system), is the final word that I really should have NO stickers at all on it?

"Final Word"

Believe we will/would continue to discuss and explore the subject if new information (in this case three or more original examples from the same time and plant) came to our attention.

At this point the findings appear to be what is posted 

[jstefanick]

Mr.Speegle- I have a thimbleful of knowledge when it comes to some of these details, but I do want to point you to this thread when I first got my 1966 6 cylinder San Jose 18K DSO 71 convertible, you were kind enough then to post some pics to get me started:

http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/index.php?topic=2036.msg10358;topicseen#msg10358

Pics 3 and 6 look to have at the least the "200" sticker. And pic 3, we cant know for sure, but that has to look of something that maybe hasn't been ever restored with a repro sticker?

What do you think, that could be a couple examples right there, if of course, they have not been added on years later to the car- they look pretty worn and original to me.

[J_Speegle]

What do you think, that could be a couple examples right there, if of course, they have not been added on years later to the car- they look pretty worn and original to me.

Don't disagree with you as far as our discussion so far has not turned up any with the Autolite decal on the lid and if I was building a car I would restore it like that lacking any additional solid info. If showing I would print out those examples with VINs and include them in my documentation binder that would travel with the car to a show. As mentioned in other threads I would introduce the subject during the judging team introductions and leave it to their determination. You can always add one later if your worried about being deducted for or stand by your convictions and follow your own path with the information you have available

[mjd 65]

Here's a screenshot from the "Sweet Six Mustang" commercial from 1966 showing an air cleaner with no decals.

[J_Speegle]

Here's a screenshot from the "Sweet Six Mustang" commercial from 1966 showing an air cleaner with no decals.

Problem with shots like that is they are often/likely preproduction cars rather than regular production cars.  Lots and lots of examples of features on ad cars that never got final approval or died in committee or someones desk.

Thanks for showing - Never saw that commercial  Is rare to see a mechanical related shot in those ads. Most of the time its all gingerbread and frosting

One of the reasons a garage full of ad pictures I was made aware of,  were never published/made into a book 

[mjd 65]

Thanks, Jeff.  I know it is never a good idea to rely on ads for details, but the car in this commercial looks surprisingly complete. Here's a link to the full commercial.

[jstefanick]

Great thought and find MJD65! I have spent the better part of the rainy NJ day looking for some sort of ad's or evidence in sales literature myself, and have come up relatively empty.

And, Mr.Speegle, I agree with you, I did divert away from the Autolite angle of this thread, but since I am re-doing my air cleaner this week, I got a little carried away with the "200" decal also. But, I feel pretty confident that one will go back to where it was on the front top of the air cleaner.

My best guess, and only a guess is that the square Autolite decal goes on the side of the aircleaner, much like the 66 8 cylinder one? Since it has no radius like the one used on the Chrome 66 6 cylinder air filter, it almost make sense?

Here is a pic of Bob Perkins 56 mile 66 coupe, I know, 8 cylinder, but it that square Autolite decal would seem to fit there real nice?
http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehicles/mump-1003-56-mile-1966-mustang-hardtop/photo-gallery/#13

Also, NPD part number D-105, is showing this Autolite valve cover sticker to be for 65-67 6 cyl mtrs. This is the sticker that is a rectangle and has no radius that I think is same sticker on Bob's near mint 66 coupe on the front vertical side of the air cleaner. (of course,his car is an 8 cyl car.)
https://www.npdlink.com/store/?p=catalog&mode=newsearch&search_str=d-105&parent=1&year=0

NPD part number D-17 is the one they list for 65-67 Chrome Air Cleaner, they don't specify 6 or 8. It has a radius, so I would think it going on the back radius of the air cleaner might make sense, if you have a Chrome one, but in my case, I don't believe that would be right since I have a snorkel air cleaner, non chrome.

https://www.npdlink.com/store/?p=catalog&mode=newsearch&search_str=d-17&parent=1&year=0

I also see a sticker on Bob's air cleaner, on the left side of the pic, which I am going to assume is the Air Cleaner part number sticker, which again, according to NPD is for 66 models only, no 6 or 8cyl specified. That may be another potential sticker that is needed?

https://www.npdlink.com/store/?p=catalog&mode=newsearch&search_str=d-109&parent=1&year=0

That's my theory, without too much evidence to back it up beyond circumstantial evidence.

And, where/who is NPD getting their info from about decals and placement, that would be an interesting discussion.