Topic: Generator heat shield - 6 Cylinder

[lathamjr]

I'm new to the forum and tried a search with no results. I've got a 64-1/2 with a generator, 170 I6 and no A/C, and am trying to put the car as close to concourse as possible. The generator appears to be a bare generator with no shield present. This appears to be an impossible item to find. What is a possible way to find one or are they not considered a tragedy if not present? What external items/attachments must be on a generator to have it considered complete? All the rubber parts seem available as reproductions but not the metal shield.

[J_Speegle]

First welcome to the site hope you find it useful in your related endeavours.

Can't seem to find any U's with a generator. Might providing when and where your car was suppose to be assembled?

On the early 6 cylinder generator Mustangs I recall no rubber and metal shield on anything but the V8's and on the 6 cylinder a simple rubber boot covering the rear couple of inches as shown in the picture below

If I were looking for these I would first check with the Falcon sites, shops and parts guys




Again welcome to the site - sure all of the early 6 cylinder guys will be along any moment


**mod edit... change 'T' to 'U'   :-) **

[CharlesTurner]

Believe all the generator's, regardless of engine type should have had the rubber boot on the back.  Not sure I have ever seen a 6 cyl car with the metal shield though.

[lathamjr]

Thanks for the info. The car is a Dearborn build on March 12, 1964 so it is definitely an early build.
It's a relief if all I need is the rubber boot. A lot of parts don't seem to have caught the attention of the reproduction parts folks.

[J_Speegle]

Guess your saying the same thing.

Both have a rear splash shield or "boot"

I've always see the V 8 cars (when they are not missing or removed during a rebuild) with the metal shield with the rubber flaps stapled to it like the fender splash shields.

Here is two examples (Dearborn cars) I found in my collection - sure there are more

First with the rubber shield missing - removed

[lathamjr]

The rubber splash shields are available everywhere but the metal shield is near impossible to find.
I read on a page of judging rules about "Non-A/C - must have correct shield,..." but it doesn't state if they were on all V8 and I6 or not. The boot and terminal caps are mentioned but they are readily available.
I'm just being picky but want the best possible results and to be as close to correct as possible.

[CharlesTurner]

I spot checked a few early 6 cyl cars, including 5F07U100002 and none had the metal shield.  The MCA rules probably could be clarified there, you may want to send a suggestion to them, head judge contacts at www.mustang.org

[64rustang]

Here is a photo of the one I have on my car.  Good luck with finding one.  I've only seen one, and this is it.

[CharlesTurner]

Here is a photo of the one I have on my car.  Good luck with finding one.  I've only seen one, and this is it.

I went and looked through all my 6 cyl reference car pics and couldn't find a single one with a generator shield.  Are you sure that one is original to the car?  Would like to get more info on this.

[wunderwerks]

10170 Generator-Splash Shield is shown in the 1969 Ford Parts Text as applicable only to the 260 and 289.  I believe I have successfully attached a copy of Group 10170 in the 60 thru 64 Ford Parts Text showing all applications for the Splash Shield.

[64rustang]

I went and looked through all my 6 cyl reference car pics and couldn't find a single one with a generator shield.  Are you sure that one is original to the car?  Would like to get more info on this.

It is not original to this car.  I was told it was taken from a Mustang.  We know how that goes...  At the time, all the information said; all generator cars, except for those with a/c, had a heat shield.  I couldn't get a definite  answer about the 6 cylinder cars.  When the opportunity presented itself, I bought this one.  It's easy enough to remove if it's not supposed to be there.  The mystery continues... 

[CharlesTurner]

It is not original to this car.  I was told it was taken from a Mustang.  We know how that goes...  At the time, all the information said; all generator cars, except for those with a/c, had a heat shield.  I couldn't get a definite  answer about the 6 cylinder cars.  When the opportunity presented itself, I bought this one.  It's easy enough to remove if it's not supposed to be there.  The mystery continues...

Thank you for your honesty.  I'll continue to look for more reference material.  It does look like yours is different than the V8 one, noticed a rubber wiring grommet on the side?  Is that because it's a different design or mounted differently?

[J_Speegle]

Here is a photo of the one I have on my car.  Good luck with finding one.  I've only seen one, and this is it.

Yes that's a odd or different one. Unlike any I've ever seen on a Mustang or Falcon in 64-65

I've had maybe 4 of the other V8 ones over the years. All back in the time when the only classic Mustangs were the 65-66 ones   

[64rustang]

It is completely different than that of a V8.  There is no rubber flap stapled to the outer half.  The sheet metal is a completely different design.  Here is a link that shows one like mine in photo number 7.  http://www.svs.com/zim/mustang/64electrical.html. What is not in the photo is a small bracket that attaches to the block to support the top of the shield.  In the photo you can see the rubber grommet for the wiring to exit through.  The inner half is sandwiched between the generator mounting bracket and the block.  Photos 6, 8 & 9 show a V8 shield for comparison.  I hope we can somehow confirm if the 6 cylinder cars came with heat shields, or not.  Some good assembly line photos would be handy.  Wishful thinking, I know....

[J_Speegle]

Bob Manuel's book has one or two pages on the subject for those who have access to that publication